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Midlife K-risis · Flying Brick Rider Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Posts: 166

I called a shop in the Salt Lake City area recently to get a quote on the 50,000 mile spline lube and this is what they had to say after quoting me $1000 for the lube: 'most guys don't do them because they figure if it hasn't failed by 50,000 miles it probably won't so they chance it because the repair isn't that much more than the spline lube itself...' Shocked

Is this for real? From what I've read on this things can get real expensive if the spline lube isn't done in a timely manner. Or am I wrong? I'm not exactly jumping at the opportunity to spend $1000 if it's not necessary...
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Off the grid · Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:15 am Post subject:

1. 1k is high for a spline lube.
2. That statement is one of the more asinine ones I have heard regarding spline lubes....do you really want to get your bike worked on at a place that feels this way?
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Jim · Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:30 am Post subject: $1,000.00 spline lube

hell, it'd be cheaper to hop on the bike and ride up to Anderwerks in Calgary to get it done - plus, you'd get in a nice ride on the way.

I'm with OTG - I wouldn't let that shop touch the bike. Is that the only shop around? No independents?
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Midlife K-risis · Flying Brick Rider Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Posts: 166

Flying Duck · Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:37 am Post subject:

You know, I can see waiting until you have symptoms of dry splines (hard downshifting) but this statement is just plain daft:

abreeze · Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject:

You shouldnt pay more than 350 for a complete Spline/Clutch service.....

Midlife K-risis · Flying Brick Rider Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Posts: 166

Well, I got the quote from the dealer. $1080. With tax and stuff it'll be well over $1100 Shocked

I guess I'm in the wrong part of the country Rolling Eyes

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BMGraeme · Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject:

Have you considered doing this yourself? It is mostly a question of getting the back end of the bike off which takes time hence the high dealer prices. I took my time and did it myself - very doable for the DIY mechanic and saves a ton of money.

The most difficult from my own experience is getting the bolts out of the paralever which require heat and a breaker bar but otherwise not too bad.
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acftfliehr · Big Brick Rider Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 62

Look around for a local BMW club or get ahold of the BMWMOA book and call a few members.

In Salt Lake you can find someone who's done the job before that can help you at the first go of it, or at least advise you where to go to get it done resonably and correctly.

I find I get a better job if I do the work msyself, and at the very least, if I screw up:

1) Drink Lots of Beer to drown out all regrets.

2) Learn how not to do it that way again.

3) Learn how the bike works, so if you break down on the road, you can possibly get yourself going again.

Good Luck,

BTW who was the first "mechanic/shop" that gave the first of faulty advice? (Just in case I am in Salt Lake Broke down).

Ted · Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject:

Adrian · Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject:

Could you guys all get together for a spline lube party? Laughing

Could be fun, all have a go, always better if there's help on hand.

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CheapJapCopy · Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:43 pm Post subject:

I'm just about to get an entire new clutch (Friction, driven, the lot) and both seals fitted for 375UKP if that's any guide. It's a nice cheap place (Bemer Bikes in Essex, Russ is a gentleman), but it goes to show that they're out there.

I decided to go for that as there is no adjustment on the actuator arm Shocked

and I've been slipping around on it for a while now, so no doubt there's plenty of damage, warping etc. Also there's a bit of gearbox oil seeping out of the hole under the bellhousing. I was going to do it myself, but the bike is needed daily, and I'd rather shell out and have a courtesy bike than risk ending up in a pile of bits with no bike Rolling Eyes

It's been over 10k miles now without too much trauma, so I suppose it was about time something big broke, still a PITA though..
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mnb · Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:34 pm Post subject:

Question that's somewhat on topic...

I had the clutch replaced on my LT at 38k or so. Is a spline lube typically part of that?

I'm wondering because, if not, I'll probably need to get that done before too long. Not experiencing any symptoms.
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Flying Duck · Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject:

mnb · Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject:

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acftfliehr · Big Brick Rider Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 62

Thanks, these forums are the best way to get the shops to shape up, as criticism is tough love, but in the end makes all better! I love the S&M of it all!!

What really gripes me over the years of riding K-bikes (since '85) is that even BMW dealers will go in and do clutch work, starter sprag work or whatever that requires removal of the transmission.

You get a nice invoice back describing the work they did, however, not a word about a spline lube in the paperwork which any Neanderthal would consider doing on reassembly!!

My K1100lt (second owner purchased) from my dealer in Modesto, who is very good, has a Rear Engine Seal replacement invoice from the previous owner, No Sline Lube mentioned, unless there is a way to do that job without Gutting the rear of the drive line to get to the seal, how is not the job done.

I asked did they do it, of course you get a verbal “but of course”, and that’s all you get however….

Make sure you get the statement with any of this kind of work, as its documentation is great for re-sale and piece of mind to say the least….

Flying Duck · Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:27 am Post subject:

I'm not sure I'd want to see it listed on the bill. Everything that is described in the left hand side usually has a number associated with it on the right hand side of the bill. Rolling Eyes

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acftfliehr · Big Brick Rider Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Posts: 62

Never thought about the right side.....

Is there a German word for complimentary???

Jim · Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject: spline lube/dealer

Of course, even if they had the bike pulled apart for any other reason, they would still have to charge the book rate for the spline lube - sort of double billing, as it were.
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