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SugarHillCTD
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:01 am    Post subject: Need a new shock Reply with quote

Recommendations for a good shock- would like to have the ability to ride one-up (me- 180#) AND 2-up with camping gear (us- 320# plus tent, sleeping bags, clothes, etc...).

Any favorites to recommend? One brand better than the others? I don't mind spending the $$ if it improves the rear end of the bike- it is really bad now 2-up.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If $$$ is not an obstacle, 0hlins is the way to go. Very high quality, adjustanbe, rebuildable. Your bike will LOVE you for it Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been supplying Hagon for nearly 10 years, never has an unhappy customer or one returned faulty.
At the budget end of the price range, the quality is superb.

http://www.hagon-shocks.co.uk/wdn_america.htm

I have one on my Bandit 12 and the R100 RS Mono - great value for money.
Realistically, is it worth spending over $1000 on a bike which is worth £3000.

The Hagon will give you what you need, at a good price Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want the best:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ohlins-Shock-BMW-K1100LT-RS-K-1100-LT-MAKE-AN-OFFER_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116QQitemZ290134620476

Notice the "Make Offer" buttom. Start at $600 and go up from there.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:18 am    Post subject: need a shock Reply with quote

I just gotta chime in here. Works Performance custom builds to your bike, weight, style etc. Made in the USA. Less money than a used Ohlins. My friend, Tom Edison gives my buddies a discount. Contact tom@worksperformance.com . Tell him I sent you.
I take no payment for referring people to him.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 on the Works shicks - good shock, good value.

Don: What's the going rate for a K1100 Works shock these days? Got any idea?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Friends,

I was at Ted Porters BMW shop getting a new tire this week. He's a pretty reputable independent wrench on the west coast (USA). He sells both Ohlins and Wilburs. His take was that the Ohlins are popular because they've sold a lot and everybody's heard of them. He suggested the Wilburs because they are custom built for each rider.

Anyone here have experience with the Wilburs on an LT?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd recommend a Wilbers 630. None of the frills you don't need, all the quality of an Ohlins and superior adjusters. I just got one for under $569 from Ted at The Beemershop http://www.beemershop.com.

Sonu wrote:
Anyone here have experience with the Wilburs on an LT


The thing Ted likes about the Wilbers is the way you order them, whatever you want. Ohlins is more of a prepackaged type thing. He also likes the adjusters.

Mine is currently enroute from Germany and should be getting installed in the next week or so (along with some new fork tubes and springs).

I was a bit surprised Wilbers made fork tubes, and I got two new ones for about $100 more than BMW charges for only one.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:59 pm    Post subject: need a new shock Reply with quote

Hi Drake,

I'll contact Tom and get a "good guy" price on the shock.
They also produce a nice spring set for the front for a good price.
Had them on my previous LT. Nice improvement. I'll try to get prices for both.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject: Re: need a new shock Reply with quote

Don Sproule wrote:
Hi Drake,

I'll contact Tom and get a "good guy" price on the shock.
They also produce a nice spring set for the front for a good price.
Had them on my previous LT. Nice improvement. I'll try to get prices for both.

Don Sproule


Great service with Works as well. They are just up the street from me, and at 50K my shock needed rebuilt so I dropped it off in the morning early around 7am, and picked it up after work at 4 the same day. Good company.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Little slow responding- have been away since Sat a.m.

Thanks for the input- everything will be considered.

Any opinion on remote adjusters? Good thing to have or unnecessary?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW I've had two Works Shocks. I got about 8000 - 10,000 miles out of each and I thought I was happy with them.

Then I put on an Olins! Shocked

Holy heck!! What a fantastic, fine tunable, PLANTED bike I suddenly was riding. Very Happy

I'll never use anything else. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shoganai wrote:
FWIW I've had two Works Shocks. I got about 8000 - 10,000 miles out of each.....


Was it because they were not great quality or they were used VERY hard??
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SugarHillCTD wrote:
Shoganai wrote:
FWIW I've had two Works Shocks. I got about 8000 - 10,000 miles out of each.....


Was it because they were not great quality or they were used VERY hard??


I don't know about the quality, I guess they were fine.

Without a doubt they were used very hard. And so has the Olins as well.

The "feel" is very different between the two. The Olins if far beefyer and easier the tweek while riding. It handles better 2 up.

Still, that's a FWIW opinion Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:18 am    Post subject: works performance Reply with quote

Here's the response from my friend , Tom, who works at Works Performance, regarding their shocks, spring kits and pricing:

Don, The shock for the K1100LT/RS is the Steel Tracker Series. It is available in the factory OEM length or in a short version that will lower the bike one inch at the wheel. The shock features triple rate springs in the stock length and dual rate springs in the short version. It has a remote reservoir for increased oil capacity and cooling, threaded pre-load (ride sag) adjustment and the ARS System. The ARS (Adjustable Rate Spring) System allows the rider to increase the spring rate by up to 50% in four separate steps. This feature allows you to go from solo riding to two up with baggage by making a simple hand adjustment, no tools required, and works independent of spring pre-load, so the adjustment only takes a matter of seconds . In addition to increasing load capacity, ARS can be used to firm the suspension for agressive sport canyon or road race style riding. All shocks are custom built for rider weight, riding style and skill level and come with a 30 day performance guarantee, 12 month parts and workmanship warranty and are fully rebuildable. The shock lists @ $479 USD. Works also offers a dual rate fork spring kit that will complement the rear shock. Firmer spring rates than the factory springs mean reduced diving under hard braking and more stable cornering. Dual rate springs offer an initial softer spring rate and a heavier final spring rate with the ability to tune the transition point in the fork stroke by using one of the three sets of crossover spacers provided. Tuneable Dual Rate Fork Spring Kit lists @ $119 USD. (Specify ABS or non-ABS (w/Showa fork) Model when ordering. Members af any motorcycling association (ie. AMA, BMWOA etc.) and fire, police and military personnel qualify for a 10% good guy discount. Works ships via UPS anywhere in the world. Payment is by major credit card on foreign orders or by wire transfer to our bank. To discuss your needs or to place an order, contact tom@worksperformance.com or by phone at 818-701-1010 Ext. 21. Thanks! Tom

I have owned a WP shock for about 6 years and like it. It's an easy install. The remote reservoir clamps under the seat sub-frame with two rubber saddles so it's completely out of the way. The preload adjustment is a quick twist requiring no tools.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i did the saskatoon sproule deal...

since we ride fully loaded i weighed the motobrick and weighed us on the motobrick...

i gave all the data to tom... he was 50lbs low on their general guess at the loaded motobrick weight so they appreciated me rolling it over the scales...

they had to special order the spring for us so it took an extra week... he said their engineers earned their money figuring out the spring and valving for our heavy motobrick and our featherlite persons...

it has been flawless for 8,000 miles...

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don,

Thanks for getting some firsthand info. I'll be giving Tom a call.

I appreciate everybody's input.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a quick plug for Works Performance.

I ordered my shock last week using 1 up weight, 2 up weight, how much gear I carry and my riding style. (aggressive)

Got the call today my tuned-to-my-weight shock will be shipping out today!

Total price? (with 10% K11OG discount!)












Wait for it......










450$ delivered.

Thats 450 for a brand new, tuned to my weight shock with rebound, preload and ride height adjustment.

Is there a better deal than that? (especially since I have been riding with an under sprung Fox shock for the past year)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: need a new shock Reply with quote

Hi OTG,

Unless your shock is different from mine, it won't have rebound adjustment, only preload and 'sag' (a bit of height adjustment- I believe).
I haven't felt the need to change the rebound- it's factory set. Tom helped me set the 'sag' on mine when he brought it to South Dakota when I bought it about five years ago. There's not much to it.
The install is quite simple. Takes about ten or fifteen minutes. The remote reservoir is mounted under the seat subframe with two hose clamps and rubber saddles.
The preload is simple to adjust. It's a lever that rotates to ride on different springs - a simple, but clever design.
I was told that it's a good idea to remove the unit if you store your bike in a frigid climate, such as we have here (the Great Frozen North) as the seals might fail in extreme cold. Still, it's only a few minutes every spring and fall to swap it over with the factory one, which I kept for that purpose.
Let me know how it goes and how you like it.

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