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hirschhs
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:42 am    Post subject: mpg Reply with quote

So the little yellow 'light' comes on at 165 miles, 10 miles later she's stuttering on a slight incline. Turned back, filled up, 18.65 litres which suggests there are still nearly 3 litres in the tank (?) so why is it stuttering so early?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve - according to the Rider's Manual, the tank holds 19.5 litres/5.2 US gallons. 5.2 gallons = 19.684141 L
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, for some reason I had 21 litres in my head.. Thanks Jim! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Completely answers a question I was coming here to ask. Many thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/bmw/bmw_k1100rs%2093.htm



I thought 22 litres was the capacity.

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http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/specpages/K1100RS.htm
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fnord wrote:
Completely answers a question I was coming here to ask. Many thanks.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dubu650 wrote:
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/bmw/bmw_k1100rs%2093.htm

I thought 22 litres was the capacity.

Steve

http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/specpages/K1100RS.htm


Hmmm... That's interesting. You wouldn't think they made two different tanks. Wonder if it's the difference with or without the flapper? Probably. Do you guys in Europe have the flapper? I was told that was for California emissions standards.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine holds 22l.
Once I measured with the tank off the bike.
It's an European model.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim wrote:
dubu650 wrote:
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/bmw/bmw_k1100rs%2093.htm
I thought 22 litres was the capacity.
Steve
http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/specpages/K1100RS.htm


Hmmm... That's interesting. You wouldn't think they made two different tanks. Wonder if it's the difference with or without the flapper? Probably. Do you guys in Europe have the flapper? I was told that was for California emissions standards.


No, we don't have a Flapper, which is why our tanks should hold more.
Steve, 165 Uk Miles, full to lamp is normal (have had 240 cruising in Germany), if a little low, dependant upon how much "enjoyment" used. However, I am usually OK for 20 miles after it illuminates. I would first change the fuel filter, if you haven't done that during your ownership. When mine's really low, I hear the pump, but never had the stuttering. Whilst you are in the tank, check the integrity of the hoses. HTH
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found this: 22 litres / 4.84 gal Imp / 5.81 gal US
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:38 pm    Post subject: UK mile Reply with quote

I thought the UK had adopted the International mile - 5,280 feet. I haven't found any conversion table for a UK mile - so I don't know if it's the same as a mile or not...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mile

If your fuel warning light is coming on too soon for you, you can bend the float wire to adjust it.

FWIW - I've run out twice - once at 239 miles, and once at 240 miles. Both times running at highway speeds and pulling a Uni-go. I have the flapper out - so I should get the 22 L fill up.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Short ton vs. long ton?

Or is that tonne?

Imperial vs. U.S. vs. ???
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way, what is a flapper?

The only flapper I'm familiar with is the crapper flapper, you know that tiny rubber thingy attached to a chain at the bottom of the toilet reservoir.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An imperial gallon (Canadian as well) is a larger gallon than a US gallon. That's why I sometimes get 63mpg on my K1100. But the mile is the mile.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:13 am    Post subject: fuel tank flapper Reply with quote

dubu650 wrote:
By the way, what is a flapper?

The only flapper I'm familiar with is the crapper flapper, you know that tiny rubber thingy attached to a chain at the bottom of the toilet reservoir.

Steve


http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fiche/MainDiagrams.asp?mospid=47926

Scroll down to #16 - then look for "tank" - it's the bottom left, just above #18.

Also here: http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fiche/MainDiagrams.asp?mospid=47926

The flapper is #11 - pictured, but not listed.

Unless you happen to have a bike that had to meet California emissions, your bike will apparently not have a flapper. It's a device that sits in the fuel filler neck with a little springy flapper thingy that you push out of the way with the fuel nozzle. Since this apparatus extends down into the tank, you can't easily put as much fuel in the tank.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

quadrabrick wrote:
An imperial gallon (Canadian as well) is a larger gallon than a US gallon. That's why I sometimes get 63mpg on my K1100. But the mile is the mile.
Smile Brent


I'd like to hear from the gents across the pond - some of whom refer to the UK mile.

I haven't seen an Imperial gallon in a long, long time, Brent. I don't know of any gasolene companies in Ontario that are selling in Imperial gallons - they're all selling in litres. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrication_in_Canada
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is true, but some of us old timers still refer to canadian miles per gallon instead of hte newer liters per 100 kilometers. It always seems bass ackwards to me.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim wrote:
quadrabrick wrote:
An imperial gallon (Canadian as well) is a larger gallon than a US gallon. That's why I sometimes get 63mpg on my K1100. But the mile is the mile.
Smile Brent


I'd like to hear from the gents across the pond - some of whom refer to the UK mile.


1,760 English Yards = 5,280 Feet = 63360 Inches = 1.609344 Kilometers.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim wrote:

Quote:

http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fiche/MainDiagrams.asp?mospid=47926

Scroll down to #16 - then look for "tank" - it's the bottom left, just above #18.

Also here: http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fiche/MainDiagrams.asp?mospid=47926

The flapper is #11 - pictured, but not listed.

Unless you happen to have a bike that had to meet California emissions, your bike will apparently not have a flapper. It's a device that sits in the fuel filler neck with a little springy flapper thingy that you push out of the way with the fuel nozzle. Since this apparatus extends down into the tank, you can't easily put as much fuel in the tank.
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Now I understand. Thanks Jim.

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