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6899 Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 103 Location: Indianapolis, IN
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 6:55 pm Post subject: SPIEGLER Stainless Steel Brake Lines |
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Gang,
Rode the 1996 K1100LT - great ride....but found when I got home that the rear brake hose nearest the caliper is leaking.
Perused old boards and its obvious that I need all new brake lines - my are stock (14 yrs and 73K miles old)
Has anyone dealt with SPIEGLER?
It looks like I need Ke S-BM0107 at $184.95
Anything else you recommend I get besides speed bleeders?
Thanks,
Martin
PS Good thing brake hose began to leak BEFORE planned vacation in June. _________________ 1996 K1100LT, 73K (bought at 61K on 2006)
1977 R100/7, bought new, rode 97K in 29 yrs before parting out
1970 R50/5, bought used, rode 40K & sold
BMWMOA #6899 since 1976
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Scott_Anderson Site Admin
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 3120 Location: Central Iowa, USA
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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I put Spieglers on my '95. Some of the best money spent.
Not only do they work, they even look good.
I'm not at home right now otherwise I could look and see what part # I bought for mine. I could pm you with it later if you would like. _________________ Ride safe.
1995 K1100LT 0302044
1997 R1100RT ZC62149
2017 FLHTK Ultra Limited
Garmin StreetPilot 2820
Garmin Zumo 550
Garmin Zumo XT
"One who does not ask questions is ashamed to learn" Danish proverb
1997 K1100LT 0302488(R.I.P.) |
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Mystic Red Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2330 Location: Twin Lakes Idaho
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Martin, the easiest way to do brake lines and they are cost effective, is to pull your lines and find a shop that will build them to exact specs. Most hydraulic shops will do it. _________________ Scott Hespelt, '94 K11LT
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6899 Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 103 Location: Indianapolis, IN
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 4:57 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the advice - I'll probably just order the kit from Speiglers since BMWMOA has endorsed them.
I would opt for custom made lines via hydraulic shop but I really want the bike ready to ride ASAP. Wish I'd known about this avenue and the potential problem ahead of time - could have taken this route during my clutch job Feb - March.
Live and learn
When I looked into OEM prices, it was higher than Speiglers....
Martin _________________ 1996 K1100LT, 73K (bought at 61K on 2006)
1977 R100/7, bought new, rode 97K in 29 yrs before parting out
1970 R50/5, bought used, rode 40K & sold
BMWMOA #6899 since 1976
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robleyd Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 23 Jul 2009 Posts: 398 Location: Murbko, Australia
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 5:26 am Post subject: |
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I decided to replace the two front lower hoses on my bike while replacing the front pads and I had the forks out for overhaul. The local brake shop made them up to sample for me - apparently if I had needed they could have turned them out on a same day basis - and the charged me AUD$79 each, which is a shipload cheaper than other options.
Oh, and they are braided stainless steel, and what colour of clear or six other choices would Sir prefer
It's not all that often we get stuff over here that is a lot cheaper than on your side of the world. _________________ David, owner of:
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Scott_Anderson Site Admin
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 3120 Location: Central Iowa, USA
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 6:59 am Post subject: Re: SPIEGLER Stainless Steel Brake Lines |
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6899 wrote: | It looks like I need Ke S-BM0107 at $184.95 |
That's the same part # I got last year.
Looks like the $ has come down a little since then. That or I got a color option that cost a little more.
I went with Smoke/Chrome color and they were $203+S&H at that time. _________________ Ride safe.
1995 K1100LT 0302044
1997 R1100RT ZC62149
2017 FLHTK Ultra Limited
Garmin StreetPilot 2820
Garmin Zumo 550
Garmin Zumo XT
"One who does not ask questions is ashamed to learn" Danish proverb
1997 K1100LT 0302488(R.I.P.) |
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Scott_Anderson Site Admin
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 3120 Location: Central Iowa, USA
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:01 am Post subject: |
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Mystic Red wrote: | Most hydraulic shops will do it. |
That was my problem, nobody around(at least w/in 100 miles) that would do it. _________________ Ride safe.
1995 K1100LT 0302044
1997 R1100RT ZC62149
2017 FLHTK Ultra Limited
Garmin StreetPilot 2820
Garmin Zumo 550
Garmin Zumo XT
"One who does not ask questions is ashamed to learn" Danish proverb
1997 K1100LT 0302488(R.I.P.) |
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Mystic Red Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2330 Location: Twin Lakes Idaho
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:26 am Post subject: |
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That was my problem, nobody around(at least w/in 100 miles) that would do it. |
It was faster than ordering them. I handed them (House of Hose) my brake lines and the guy asked if I was going to wait for them. How long? 1/2 hour. Yea, I'll wait.
Told my wife that I found a new Ho house. _________________ Scott Hespelt, '94 K11LT
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6899 Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 103 Location: Indianapolis, IN
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Gang,
Ordered the S-BM0107 from Spiegler for &185.95 (all 5 hoses for K1100LT); with 2 speed bleeders ($14) and shipping (10.67) the total bill was $209.62.
Will let all know how it went.
Thanks,
Martin _________________ 1996 K1100LT, 73K (bought at 61K on 2006)
1977 R100/7, bought new, rode 97K in 29 yrs before parting out
1970 R50/5, bought used, rode 40K & sold
BMWMOA #6899 since 1976
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old guy old bike Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 373 Location: Lisbon, OH
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Martin,
It will go well. I put that kit on over the winter also. All the peices parts were there and of the right length. You will have to time the fittings as you install them. Not a big deal. They give you a little plastic block that you can clamp in a vise and a small plastic dowel to put in the fitting to rotate it as needed. I found the little plastic block to be a big pain in the ass. I just used a good pair of pliers and the plastic dowel.
Jeff _________________ 1993 K1100LT
2003 K1200GT Gone but not forgotten
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Naked Hoof Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 150 Location: Northern NJ
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:38 am Post subject: |
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I just got these lines for my RS. Already installed the rears, but it looks like the line from the master cylinder to the ABS line is a bit hard to get to and I might have to remove some fairing pieces to get to it.
Any here that have done this know if this is the case?
Thanks in advance. _________________ 79 Honda CB750 trainer
traded for Suzuki GS1150e (stolen)
81 Honda CB900F
02 Kawasaki ZR7 (cursed)
93 K1100RS Mystic Red
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Scott_Anderson Site Admin
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 3120 Location: Central Iowa, USA
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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The line from the front MC down is a real pain. It's towards the front and near the stearing head, on the right hand side of center, but I had to(or at least I did) remove the gas tank and operate like a surgeon through the wiring bundles to get to it.
Not something I want to do again anytime soon. _________________ Ride safe.
1995 K1100LT 0302044
1997 R1100RT ZC62149
2017 FLHTK Ultra Limited
Garmin StreetPilot 2820
Garmin Zumo 550
Garmin Zumo XT
"One who does not ask questions is ashamed to learn" Danish proverb
1997 K1100LT 0302488(R.I.P.) |
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6899 Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 103 Location: Indianapolis, IN
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Scott,
I was all set to replace the brake hose from the front master to the site under the gas tank, but decided after a lot of looking that it was a real PITA do I quit. Ended up replacing all lines with Speigler but that one.''
Martin _________________ 1996 K1100LT, 73K (bought at 61K on 2006)
1977 R100/7, bought new, rode 97K in 29 yrs before parting out
1970 R50/5, bought used, rode 40K & sold
BMWMOA #6899 since 1976
Indy BMW Club since 1975 |
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Naked Hoof Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 150 Location: Northern NJ
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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Martin, I replaced all of the lines. That one was a slight PITA, but once the tank was off, it was a piece of cake.
I used zip ties to keep the wiring harnesses out of my way, and removing the boss that holds the ABS lines to the frame is de riguer. If you don't do this first, you're going to be cursing. Once you get them out of the way, it's easy as pie.
I actually was having more problems with the line that goes from the ABS pump to the splitter at the fender, until I pulled the assy. out from below the triple T's.
I was a little upset that the service manual states you have to compress the pistons. I did this with one side, and absolutely nothing came out of the caliper. I even bought a special tool to compress the pistons, which was a waste of money, although it does make a nice portable vise. Speed Bleeders made the job a snap. _________________ 79 Honda CB750 trainer
traded for Suzuki GS1150e (stolen)
81 Honda CB900F
02 Kawasaki ZR7 (cursed)
93 K1100RS Mystic Red
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6899 Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 103 Location: Indianapolis, IN
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Guys,
Apparently the K1100LT is harder than the KS because I had to remove the gas tank and fairing. After looking at the location of the line under the gas tank, I opined that it looked like I would have to remove the fan and radiator and wrench it off from below.
Well I did not remove the wiring, so maybe this winter when I'm bored I'll use the last SS line.
Othewise its time to ride. Been working on the K1100LT since Feb. SIck of it! Time to ride!!
Martin _________________ 1996 K1100LT, 73K (bought at 61K on 2006)
1977 R100/7, bought new, rode 97K in 29 yrs before parting out
1970 R50/5, bought used, rode 40K & sold
BMWMOA #6899 since 1976
Indy BMW Club since 1975 |
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