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K1100LT bogs down???

 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:56 pm    Post subject: K1100LT bogs down??? Reply with quote

Ok, here't the problem... Lately when riding my 1993 K1100LT, it will suddenly bog down and hardley run. Full throttle will only get you to about 55 mph. After a mile or two it will just as suddenly go back to running correctly. So far I've replaced the fuel filter and installed a fuel pump tune up kit. I rode 250 miles yesterday. At about 170 miles into the ride, it started acting up. After a mile or so it started running good again, and ran great the rest of the day. Any Ideas???? sugestions???? This is driving me crazy. Thanks in advance for any help.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick way to troubleshoot a dying pump - Next time it happens give the side of the tank a good thwack - not hard enough to dent the aluminum, just enough to jar it (and the pump.) When pumps start to go bad often they will bog down or simply stop suddenly, and early on when this starts happening a good jar will often bring them instantly back to life. As you can guess, the behavior steadily gets worse and the thwacks stop working.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and the thwacks stop working.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When was the fuel filter changed last? Could be indications of plugging up.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ted wrote:
Quick way to troubleshoot a dying pump - Next time it happens give the side of the tank a good thwack - not hard enough to dent the aluminum, just enough to jar it (and the pump.) When pumps start to go bad often they will bog down or simply stop suddenly, and early on when this starts happening a good jar will often bring them instantly back to life. As you can guess, the behavior steadily gets worse and the thwacks stop working.


Thanks Ted, I'll try that. I don't mind buying the new pump if it will cure this. Kenny
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kinked fuel line? Water in the gas? Tank vent line clogged? Something clogging the fuel inlet inside the tank?

(Maybe this will never happen but) what if you take weight off of the seat as it's sputtering? Mine had something causing pressure on the motronic and it would run smoothly while I was standing on the pegs. (Hope this isn't it, because it's costly.)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flaky fuel tank connector?

Flaky side stand switch or connnector?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RI Parker wrote:
it would run smoothly while I was standing on the pegs. (Hope this isn't it, because it's costly.)


Only if you go under a low bridge...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check battery terminals, spark plug and coil connections.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had the same problem ones on my k11lt.It was a bad connection at a fuel
injector.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UPDATE!!!! I went for a ride today and it started the same old thing. Ran like crap, then good, then like crap... I just happened to catch it when it was running bad. I put the bike on the centerstand, and checked the header pipes. #1 hot #2cold #3cold #4 hot. Ok, its only running on two cylinders. Why??? My guess is a coil going bad. Anyone else have an idea please chime in.....
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YES

The coils are paired. 1&4 and 2&3.

A K550LT must be a DOG, eh?

Looks like FD wins the prize for his diagnosis Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a similar situation a few years ago. Only running on outside 2 of the 4. Difference being it happened all at once.

Ended up being a couple of bad valves in the center 2 cyl at the same time. Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott_Anderson wrote:
I had a similar situation a few years ago. Only running on outside 2 of the 4. Difference being it happened all at once.

Ended up being a couple of bad valves in the center 2 cyl at the same time. Shocked


Ouch!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fortunately on off on off sounds more like a coil. I'd go for cleaning the earth first.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One other thing to check. K1100LTs are notorious of cracked exhaust pipes where the four pipes weld into one near the left foot peg. A good welder capable of welding stainless steel can fix the problem. I've had mine crack three times in my 140,000 miles of ownership. I've also had the front exhaust nuts to the head come loose resulting in a blown exhaust gasket. In each case, the overly lean condition sensed by the 02 senor results in the kind of cutting out that your experiencing. In essense, the lean condition is outside the range of the sensor.

I've also had this problem occur when the crankcase breather hose to the air filter box cracked. It's easy to identify sense you will usually see an oily film on the outside of the hose. If you pull off the left side panel, you can see the hose running to the airbox by looking just in front of the fuse panel. If its oily, its cracked.

http://k11og.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=30245&sid=f9b4335a3ebf01fe6c4feddc064c7384
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:20 pm    Post subject: UPDATE Reply with quote

I think I've got it... 300 miles since Sunday, and the bike runs great.

I replaced:

1. Fuel pump
2. Fuel strainer
3. Fuel filter
4. Fuel pump damper and all attached parts
5. Fuel lines

Total cost: $323.00 Parts supplied by: Euro Moto Electrics & Beemer Boneyard.

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