K11 Owners Group

monty8563 · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:27 pm Post subject: Shocks info

Hello all, please can someone tell me if the shocks on the lt are the same as as the rs thanks monty Confused

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2xcelr8 · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:50 pm Post subject: Same Shock

The shocks are the same. I took the shock off my RS and ran it on my LT for awhile.
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'96 K1100RS, '94 K1100LT, '84 Honda VF700F Interceptor (4 sale)

Number 6 · Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 11:24 am Post subject:

+1, same shocks.
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94 K1100LT

merlin geikie · Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 9:53 am Post subject:

I think they were Nivomat then Bilstein but in any case, do not last for long under all that weight.

The k12rs shocks last about 30K mi and I doubt if the K11 shock lasts much longer.

The K12 shocks are Showa and are rebuildable and the K11 ones may be rebuildable too.

Wink

Number 6 · Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 10:38 am Post subject:

There are different brands, stocks are Ikon I think, but Ohlins are much better and rebuiltable at wish.
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Inge K. · Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 11:48 am Post subject:

Bilstein was stock on K100`s, with nivomat from Boge as an optonial extra.
All K11 and late K100RS 4V have Showa.

Inge K.

merlin geikie · Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 8:34 pm Post subject:

I am thinking of getting Hagon monoshocks for my K12rs, rather than rebuilding the Showas.

Anyone have the experience of whether Hagon are superior to the stock Showa please?

Thanks in advance.. Wink

drikko · Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 9:55 pm Post subject:

I'm sending my ikon back to be fixed as it just blew a seal (queue penguin eating an icecream joke here). Had all sorts of trouble getting it out as all the end bearings were stuffed, bits missing, spacers wrecked. Not happy about it at all!!!

Will get them to revalve it at the same time for my 'stature'.....
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'Bigamy is having one wife/husband too many. Monogamy is the same.'
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drikko · Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 1:11 am Post subject:

While I was packing my Ikon up to send back today I noticed the one I had taken off was a Showa B007. I took it off because it was too soft rebound, but I noticed it has rebound adjustment. I suspect it had been installed wrong way around so I couldn't see the adjustment screw, perhaps I was too quick in replacing it!

So is the Showa the original equipment?
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Laverda RGS 1000 '84
Jim Young Trailer Sailer 5.7M WB

DISCLAIMER:- Anything I say may have been when I was drunk so please don't take it personally.

'Bigamy is having one wife/husband too many. Monogamy is the same.'
Oscar Wilde

merlin geikie · Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 1:24 am Post subject:

Yes Drikko it does seem Showa forks in the K75

Showa monoshocks in K11

Showa monoshocks front n rear K12

There is a place in your neck of the woods which will rebuild Showas for about 220aud.

See http://www.wwshockabsorbers.com.au/aboutus.htm

Seem like nice folk and have been doing it for a LONG time.

Howz ya health ol Son?

all the best Wink

drikko · Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 1:57 am Post subject:

Healths good thanks MG. No more troubles at this stage Smile

Yeah I know about WWshocks, I've used them for my cars in the past.

I might just put the Showa back on for a while and see if it is OK with some adjustment.
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K1100RS '97
Laverda RGS 1000 '84
Jim Young Trailer Sailer 5.7M WB

DISCLAIMER:- Anything I say may have been when I was drunk so please don't take it personally.

'Bigamy is having one wife/husband too many. Monogamy is the same.'
Oscar Wilde

merlin geikie · Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 5:11 am Post subject:

Sounds good.

Geez the Ikon spat the dummy, so to speak.

For my K12 a new set of Ikons would set me back 1325aud Rolling Eyes

Seems crazy that I can have Hagons delivered to my door from UK at 840aud...

I thought the Ikons were the bees knees n aussie made n all, but sounds like maybe not...

Are you under warranty from them for that shock?

Glad to hear health good Drikko... must be the barley therapy Wink

drikko · Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 7:01 am Post subject:

Yeah not happy jan comes to mind, I have pushed the warranty issue with them, will see where I get with that!!
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K1100RS '97
Laverda RGS 1000 '84
Jim Young Trailer Sailer 5.7M WB

DISCLAIMER:- Anything I say may have been when I was drunk so please don't take it personally.

'Bigamy is having one wife/husband too many. Monogamy is the same.'
Oscar Wilde

Beachcomber · Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 11:27 am Post subject:

As we're all mentioning various brands of available shox - don't forget the RAM [ www.realmengineering.com. ] alloy bodied shocker which was developed SPECIALLY for Kays, has a 2 year warranty AND club members get 10% discount!

There's a possibility of a second group buy coming up to reduce carriage costs.
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merlin geikie · Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 7:51 pm Post subject:

Beachcomber ... will the K11 monoshock fit the K12 front and back?

There are plenty of K12 around and they go through shocks quickly Wink

Beachcomber · Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:22 am Post subject:

Hi Merlin,

as you may be aware - the RAM shox for kays came about as a selfish desire of mine to get what I considered to be a decent shocker at a decent price!!

Fortunately for me, although I am long retired from the Speiciality Car manufacturing game - my pal / business associate of some 35 years + is still manufacturing.
It's this "old pal's act" that has allowed me the opportunity to develop shox.

That was 2 years and 300 + shox ago. Since then, I've developed with him shox for Yamaha TR1 [ don't ask !! ] AND we're looking at Oilheads, purely based on customer feedback.

K1200's - am I right in thinking the fron is a Telelever set up similar to Oilheads? That one is virtually road trialled. The rear - a centrally positioned Monoshock ??

I'll certainly speak with the manufacturer / designer and ask the question. What sort of mileages are the OEM shox failing at?

The shocker we are looking at for the Oilhead [ rear ] is based on the bulletproof unit that Realm have used on their Cobra race cars for the past 25 years and I'm certain would be more than capable of handling 600 lbs or so of K1200 !

I guess the answer is to flag up any ineterest - as I did with the original K100 /1100.

The answer is I'm certain a suitable shocker could be developed in very short time span - AND it will be a superior unit, AND sensible [ ie not Ohlins ] money !! That said, Ohlins must be considered one of the best Worldwide - you just have to pay for the percieved privilege.
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merlin geikie · Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:15 am Post subject:

G'day Beachcomber,

Thanks for your reply:

Beachcomber · Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:08 pm Post subject:

Thanx for the headsup Merlin.

This is EXACTLY how the original Kay [ 100 /1100 ] shox came about. I asked the question, and a lot of like minded folk responded !

OK - I'll also do some research, but initially the project looks like a goer developed from existing base units.
We're quite happy about the Telelever front, as we've bee running that on an Oilhead for the past 12 months - excellent feedback to date.

Problem [ ? ] with the rear is if a remote dampener / pre-load is required. We don't use such a system on the cars !!!

However, the shock itself is no problem. Valving etc., is simply selected for the weight / weight distribution.
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Beachcomber '93 K1100RS / '93 K1100LT and several K100's

merlin geikie · Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:21 am Post subject:

Beachcomber is on the ball:

drikko · Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:48 am Post subject:

Personally I really detest the screwing pre load adjusters. On my K you have to remove the right pannier bracket to adjust it. Completely removes the desire to change it for differing loads. I much prefer the old clunky clunky adjuster or best of all the remote hydraulic/electronic adjuster.
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K1100RS '97
Laverda RGS 1000 '84
Jim Young Trailer Sailer 5.7M WB

DISCLAIMER:- Anything I say may have been when I was drunk so please don't take it personally.

'Bigamy is having one wife/husband too many. Monogamy is the same.'
Oscar Wilde