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Installing BMW fork boots, (gaiters)...how in the?
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Bob T
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:41 am    Post subject: Installing BMW fork boots, (gaiters)...how in the? Reply with quote

OK...rebuilt the forks and go to put on the Official BMW fork gaiters...
Ordered the standard boot from Max BMW for the /5 /6 /7 model R bike...
Part number 31421234908...

How in the bloody heck do you get these to stretch over the lower fork tube top?
The top of the lower tube is about 2.4" and the bottom, (larger), end of the gaiter is 1.75"...

Who among us has actually done this?
I used every tool I could think of...stretched it, pulled it, greased it...and finally gave up.

And yes, I know about the low cost Rancho boots...thought I'd be cool and get the "real" thing... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:06 am    Post subject: fork boots Reply with quote

Pretty sure those will not fit your K bike.

The fork lowers are a bit diffrent.

Go online, maybe Amazon.con, order the Rancho's for about $12.00 shipped.

They fit snug and I did not use the tie wraps that came with them.

Use hose clamp for the lower
I painted the hose clamps with truck bed liner as my lower portion of the belly pan hasthis treatment too.

Looks like this.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:30 am    Post subject: Re: fork boots Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply...

jpberens1994K1100RS wrote:
Pretty sure those will not fit your K bike.

The fork lowers are a bit diffrent.


I'm pretty sure myself...now... Embarassed

However...I have repeatedly read, on different forums, about using the /5 /6 /7 BMW boots....

Hence my puzzlement...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:43 am    Post subject: fit & forums Reply with quote

Yup!

Ya gotta watch what you trust on them der forums.

I might be missing something on the fit though, not fully certain.

I have an 81 R100 RS with BMW boots on it, I got rid of the stock fairing closure type boots as they do not protect the tubes.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, Bob T.,
On my earlier K1100LT, when I didn't have the time to replace the fork seals, I took it to my local (now defunct) dealer for new seals and to have gaiters added. As far as I know, the /7 gaiters were used. Since that was 12 years ago and I sold the bike 5 years ago, I no longer have the work order so I can't check the part number for you. Since then, for all the bikes I've added gaiters, I've used Rancho or "aftermarket Rancho" gaiters. They work, fit reasonably well, and last. I put them on the '94 K75A/3 in 2004 and the still look and work fine.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:25 pm    Post subject: Trying to rebuild leaky forks on 96 K1100rs Reply with quote

I'm dealing with my 1st rebuild of forks. Heres the bike's history; bought the bike Apr 2009 w/15k on it, Been serviced at local BMW dealer, in fact they did my inspection. At about 22k forks are leaking. Dealer shows the forks were serviced by them at 9k !? Does this seem fishy... any advice?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Trying to rebuild leaky forks on 96 K1100rs Reply with quote

Kneophyte1100 wrote:
I'm dealing with my 1st rebuild of forks. Heres the bike's history; bought the bike Apr 2009 w/15k on it, Been serviced at local BMW dealer, in fact they did my inspection. At about 22k forks are leaking. Dealer shows the forks were serviced by them at 9k !? Does this seem fishy... any advice?


I suspect the service was just an oil change.
My bike has 28K on it and needs seals.
You just never know with seals...bugs, dirt, crud can get in there, (hence the gaiters)...

I replaced the seals on my Suzuki last spring and they both went out 4K miles later...(aftermarket seals, this time they will get factory parts)
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Trying to rebuild leaky forks on 96 K1100rs Reply with quote

Kneophyte1100 wrote:
I'm dealing with my 1st rebuild of forks. Heres the bike's history; bought the bike Apr 2009 w/15k on it, Been serviced at local BMW dealer, in fact they did my inspection. At about 22k forks are leaking. Dealer shows the forks were serviced by them at 9k !? Does this seem fishy... any advice?


Welcome to K11OG!

Fork service would not include changing the seals - just the fork oil.

The best thing you can do when replacing the seals is to add gaiters. A lot of people think gaiters are ugly - I think they look a lot better than leaking seals - especially when I'm 3,000 miles out on a trip.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Trying to rebuild leaky forks on 96 K1100rs Reply with quote

Jim wrote:
Welcome to K11OG!

The best thing you can do when replacing the seals is to add gaiters. A lot of people think gaiters are ugly - I think they look a lot better than leaking seals - especially when I'm 3,000 miles out on a trip.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:25 pm    Post subject: Anyone ever try ATF vs. fork oil Reply with quote

For my 96 K1100rs- A mechanic friend said he has used ATF as fork oil in various Hondas. Supposedly keeps the rubber seal swelled better than fork oil. My local BMW shop DOES NOT concur. Any thoughts
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone ever try ATF vs. fork oil Reply with quote

Kneophyte1100 wrote:
For my 96 K1100rs- A mechanic friend said he has used ATF as fork oil in various Hondas. Supposedly keeps the rubber seal swelled better than fork oil. My local BMW shop DOES NOT concur. Any thoughts


Pretty common. Google it.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Installation probably requires removal of the tubes from the fork tree/upper to slide on from top. I just cut the back of the gaiters, punched small holes and used small black snap ties to stitch up the gaiter. Can't see it all from the front or sides really...i think the gaiter is just to keep bugs, etc. out, it doesn't have to be 'sealed' tight.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anytime I have something flexible to stretch over a wider item, I throw it in boiling water for a few minutes.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somebody on ADV claims to have used a hook tool to make them work.

A&S shows part 31422311077 as the correct ones for Ks. That would make sense as those are the fork boots for the early 90s GS bikes which most likely have similar forks to Ks of the same era while the ...908 boots were used in the late 70s.

http://ascycles.com/detail.aspx?ID=1640
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW, the lower hose clamp for those boots on a GS is 31421458226 which is a 61mm diameter hose clamp. 61mm = 2.4016" so the diameter sounds pretty close to the 2.4" measurement that you took of the top of the fork lower.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put /7 rubber boots on my -94 K11LT 4y ago, no bigger problem fitting them, by dismounting the covering centre of the mudguard front.
Fixed the rubber boots with strappers on both ends.
Disadvantage a whissling sound by compression of the fork.

About fork oil my personal favourite LMZ hydrauic oil to Citroen ( SAE 7).
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tibbe wrote:
Disadvantage a whissling sound by compression of the fork.


I eliminated that problem with a leather punch. Put yourself a hole at the lower part of the gaiter. The hole serves 2 purposes.
1, provides a drain for any moisture, or oil if there is a leak.
2, lets air in/out when fork compresses and rebounds.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob,

I fitted fork aiters to my K11 in June last year.
The Rancho boots were not available in Souf Efrika.
I tried a tack of off road bike and car places, the only ones I found to fit were PURPLE.

A sharp sales dude at a MX bike shop suggested univeral steering rack boots. Each end is stepped and you cut them down to th required size.
They fitted great, look as goo as the OE part and cost $3/leg.

Take a look at my posting. http://www.k11og.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9005&highlight=

BTW..I've now swapped the cable ties with SS pipe clips.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the help everyone....

Next time the forks come out I will be using the Ranchos...but for now, too late...

Next up...shopping for a rear shock...RAM, YSS...?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:10 pm    Post subject: shocks Reply with quote

I like my Ram shock.

Look at my posts, search " jpberens1994k1100rs "

Add in fork boots, and rear shock.

I also painted my SS hose clamps with TB liner. It's held up VERY well!
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