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Scott_Anderson Site Admin
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 3119 Location: Central Iowa, USA
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:48 am Post subject: |
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When I returned to riding after a 25yr hiatus the bike I started with was a 750cc Yamaha v-twin. I rode it for about 9mo before I got my 1st K1100LT.
I sold the Yamaha, but I honestly admit there are still some days I wish I still had it.......something smaller, lighter weight, more nimble for commuting.
I've considered a K75 for work commuting, but I leave home a little earlier and ride a little longer. _________________ Ride safe.
1995 K1100LT 0302044
1997 R1100RT ZC62149
2017 FLHTK Ultra Limited
Garmin StreetPilot 2820
Garmin Zumo 550
Garmin Zumo XT
"One who does not ask questions is ashamed to learn" Danish proverb
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10085 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:27 am Post subject: |
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Normally I wouldn't recommend one as they're still a bit heavy for a learner bike, but since you've already put some miles on the K11LT and seem to like K bikes, you might want to consider getting a K75 standard or K75C. A K75S would work too but if you like a more upright riding position then that wouldn't fit the bill. A K75RT, though not as bad as a K11LT, is still a bit topheavy.
You can also Google around for learner or beginner motorcycle and find some pretty common recommendations.
This is just personal bias since I owned one once but I had a Nighthawk 650 for a few years and found it to be a very easy and enjoyable bike to ride back when I didn't have many miles under my belt. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
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Weatherman2112 Brick Rider
Joined: 31 Jan 2014 Posts: 43 Location: Charlotte, NC
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Flying Duck wrote: | Normally I wouldn't recommend one as they're still a bit heavy for a learner bike, but since you've already put some miles on the K11LT and seem to like K bikes, you might want to consider getting a K75 standard or K75C. A K75S would work too but if you like a more upright riding position then that wouldn't fit the bill. A K75RT, though not as bad as a K11LT, is still a bit topheavy.
You can also Google around for learner or beginner motorcycle and find some pretty common recommendations.
This is just personal bias since I owned one once but I had a Nighthawk 650 for a few years and found it to be a very easy and enjoyable bike to ride back when I didn't have many miles under my belt. |
Interesting you mention a Nighthawk. When my instructor learned what bike I had he put me on a nighthawk to learn on rather that a cruiser style bike. It was a 250....too small but I could see 650 being pretty good. Thanks! _________________ 1993 BMW K1100lt |
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Ernie-NH Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 14 Oct 2009 Posts: 982 Location: Bristol, New Hampshire
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Good morning Weatherman...
After his MSF course,, I had my grandson start on a Buell 500 ! Lightweight, not top heavy, very easy to control, responsive, great on gas, low enough to get an average height rider's feet firmly on the ground when stopped,,and unlike BMWs, serviceable nearly anywhere where Harley's are serviced. The seating position is a bit 'bent forward' but not severe like other 'sport bikes', ( you can swap out the handle bars anyway if need be )... plus I had no problems to secure camping gear and all other stuff for longer trips. IF you see one on C/L, just go have a look and maybe a test ride, think it might impress you... and then in a year of Charlotte "high risk" riding, sell it for a "K" bike !! That's just my $0.02
Remember... ride conservatively, always create an escape route, avoid using the front brake, do not stop in neutral when in traffic, keep eye ALWAYS on the rearview... and be safe !!
Best regards....// Ernie in NH _________________ AMA,, American Deaf Bikers
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Jim Site Admin
Joined: 17 May 2003 Posts: 3840 Location: WHERETHEFUNNEVERENDS
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, Ernie. I take exception to your "avoid using the front brake".
I say never use the front brake on gravel, sand or any other loose or exceedingly slippery material. Other than that, the front and rear brakes need to be used together. _________________ Jim
1997 K1100LTSE 94,000 - has gremlins!
1995 R100RT Classic 16,650 crashed - repairing
1992 K75RTP 46,000
1992 R100R 24,000 - FOR SALE
"We shall not all die, but we shall all be changed." |
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Ernie-NH Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 14 Oct 2009 Posts: 982 Location: Bristol, New Hampshire
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Jim...
Yes....... ..BUT... Weatherman is a NEW rider, fresh from MSF,, he has to learn when/how to use the front brake properly. I parking lots or very slow moving traffic, the front brake could put him down. However, my use of the word "never" or "dont" should have been more clearly stated eh ?
See you soon....// Ernie in NH _________________ AMA,, American Deaf Bikers
Airhead Beemers Club
'11 G650gs
'95 K1100LT
'76 R100/7 |
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sccommuter Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 25 Oct 2011 Posts: 155 Location: Metromess, Tx
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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I gained my experience on a 1982 Honda CB 750 custom. In-line 4 cylinder with plenty of speed and acceleration. Light, nimble and could flat foot it. Took it on a 2k+ mile trip with no problems but a sore/tired butt. At 5'9" and shrinking due to age, I find myself somewhat vertically challenged on my LT. It's manageable, but I do have to pay attention to where I put my one foot down. It took me 6 months before I dropped mine in a Walmart parking lot on my way to my first Hungry Mother gathering. I made my grand entrance sans my left mirror cover. I find weight distribution on this bike very important as it is top heavy. When I load it for a long haul I try to load the heavier items in the side cases and the light weight gear gets strapped on the pillion. _________________ 1995 K1100 LT
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Weatherman2112 Brick Rider
Joined: 31 Jan 2014 Posts: 43 Location: Charlotte, NC
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:28 am Post subject: |
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Ernie-NH wrote: |
Hi Jim...
Yes....... ..BUT... Weatherman is a NEW rider, fresh from MSF,, he has to learn when/how to use the front brake properly. I parking lots or very slow moving traffic, the front brake could put him down. However, my use of the word "never" or "dont" should have been more clearly stated eh ?
See you soon....// Ernie in NH |
It's funny. The MSF instructors emphasized over and over to ALWAYS use BOTH brakes at all times. But, they did say you have to have the front tire straight or the front brake will cause you to go down. There was no mention of front brakes on gravel or sand. But, I must say, it was not the use of my front brake that caused the drop. I had the bike stopped. My mistake was not recognizing how bad the footing was and what the consequences would be. Knowing what I know now, I think I would have avoided coming to a complete stop and just slowly progressed through the sand and gravel. Something tells me I'll get another chance to try it again some day. _________________ 1993 BMW K1100lt |
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Ernie-NH Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 14 Oct 2009 Posts: 982 Location: Bristol, New Hampshire
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Hi guys...
Well YES, you're absolutely correct, both brakes should be used after you learn the feel and what each can/cannot do alone. I cant tell you how many times I've seen new riders ( usually in a parking lot ) either on the ground, or standing beside a down bike, because they panicked at slow speed and "down she went" ... so 'right or wrong Weatherman" keep your cool, use both brakes when you're confident and when you have developed that feel...If I remember right, somewhere around 70% of the bikes total braking force comes from the front brake system..
Once again.... ride safe !.../ Ernie n NH _________________ AMA,, American Deaf Bikers
Airhead Beemers Club
'11 G650gs
'95 K1100LT
'76 R100/7 |
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molerat Big Brick Rider
Joined: 14 May 2012 Posts: 69 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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sccommuter wrote: | Welcome and nice bike. Be on the lookout for used mirrors. You'll probably need one eventually. As there are those that have dropped this bike and those that are going to. |
Such sound advice, in fact I just picked one up off ebay this week for this very reason, unfortunately does not match current paint, not to concerned. I learned the hard way 2 years ago when I bought mine, within a couple months I dropped it a couple times and both due to loose footing or real sharp turns into driveways and real slow speeds.
Any way welcome to the forum weatherman, if you find yourself heading west to Glacier Park let me know. I am in CO. We can find a watering hole somewhere or I may just join you for part of your ride. It's been decades since I've been to Glacier Park.
Tons of great info here that I have benefited from immensely and can't thank these brick guys enough. _________________ Brian
1995 K1100 LT
1952 HRD Vincent Black Shadow, Series C |
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