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1993k1100rs
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 Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:16 pm Post subject: 1993 k1100rs PTTR |
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OK really? So today I installed my Throttlemeister kit. Sweet. Head out on the highway. WTF I keep having to knee the bike to keep it from drifting right. OMG has it been wrecked? That is the first thing that goes through my mind. No matter where I,m at on the road it drifts. So I get home do some Google work and low and behold Its perfectly normal for a Beemer.
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I deleted the bulk of this post as it was made in a time of real frustration.
The net result of a tendency to drift would be loss of front tire life. Much like an auto you would expect straight tracking. It is not about riding hands free.
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blue95lt
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| Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:01 am Post subject: Wait till you try |
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Just wait till you try to buy a motorcycle jack,like from sears and jack it up,that don't work either!
So quityourbitchingandride! Or just get on your filthy jap pos and like it!
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Plattaya
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| Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:56 am Post subject: |
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Well mine never did that, I am with on the Suzuki though I had a GS850 and it was a great bike, so is my K1100!
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Scott_Anderson
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| Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:59 am Post subject: Re: 1993 k1100rs PTTR |
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| 1993k1100rs wrote: | | .... Head out on the highway. WTF I keep having to knee the bike to keep it from drifting right. OMG has it been wrecked? ........ |
Well I can tell you that if you continue to ride with that mindset that you don't have to have your hands on the handle bars, you will end up with a wrecked bike. 
Can you say reckless driving? Irresponsible?
Yes some bikes track straight, some don't, some riders are able to control the direction of a bike with no hands, but it's definitely not an example I want to promote.
You surely don't let your truck drive down the road without at least 1 hand on the steering wheel do you?
Rant off.........
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1993k1100rs
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| Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:37 am Post subject: Re: 1993 k1100rs PTTR |
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| Scott_Anderson wrote: | | 1993k1100rs wrote: | | .... Head out on the highway. WTF I keep having to knee the bike to keep it from drifting right. OMG has it been wrecked? ........ |
Well I can tell you that if you continue to ride with that mindset that you don't have to have your hands on the handle bars, you will end up with a wrecked bike.
Can you say reckless driving? Irresponsible?
Yes some bikes track straight, some don't, some riders are able to control the direction of a bike with no hands, but it's definitely not an example I want to promote.
You surely don't let your truck drive down the road without at least 1 hand on the steering wheel do you?
Rant off......... |
I deleted the bulk of my original post as it was made in a time of real frustration.
The net result of a tendency to drift would be loss of front tire life due to being out of alignment. Much like an auto you would expect straight tracking. It is not about riding hands free. |
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whyoldbill
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| Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:25 am Post subject: |
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I don't think it's true that all BMWs don't track in a straight line.
I think the reality is that depending on the condition of the tires, the crown of the road, weight distribution on the bike (particularly saddle bag contents) and the alignment of the Sun, Moon and who knows what else, (not to mention steering head bearings!) some drift is not necessarily indicative of a major problem.
There are a lot of variables in the equation.
All of my frustrations with my '97 have been directly proportional to my expectations and comparisons to my '02 Wing.
It's not a perfect bike, but it makes me smile every time I twist that throttle.
I wouldn't fret over it. Ride it like you stole it. It's a 21 year old bike.
That's my $.02
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1993k1100rs
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| Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:45 am Post subject: |
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| whyoldbill wrote: | I don't think it's true that all BMWs don't track in a straight line.
I think the reality is that depending on the condition of the tires, the crown of the road, weight distribution on the bike (particularly saddle bag contents) and the alignment of the Sun, Moon and who knows what else, (not to mention steering head bearings!) some drift is not necessarily indicative of a major problem.
There are a lot of variables in the equation.
All of my frustrations with my '97 have been directly proportional to my expectations and comparisons to my '02 Wing.
It's not a perfect bike, but it makes me smile every time I twist that throttle.
I wouldn't fret over it. Ride it like you stole it. It's a 21 year old bike.
That's my $.02 |
Yea I'm just gonna have to move past it.
The Michelin pilots have 2k on them. The bike has 35k. Road slope had no real effect other than a right slope of course created more drift. I really do like the bike. I just got hit with some surprises quickly after getting it. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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My THEORY is that the front wheel is slightly to the right to accommodate the ABS ring and this results in the bikes "crabbing" to the right a bit.
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1993k1100rs
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| Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Flying Duck wrote: | | My THEORY is that the front wheel is slightly to the right to accommodate the ABS ring and this results in the bikes "crabbing" to the right a bit. |
I kinda slipped a cog last knight over this. It was just one more thing in a bike that was "gone over with a fine tooth comb.
Its still a great bike and I am grateful for all the input I have gotten here on the seals that need replacing. Just going through a get acquainted process with the bike.
Thanks again for all help on the other thread |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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I guess this guy won't be buying a K11 then..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJP-XhY_SCw
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Scott_Anderson
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If I recall correctly, the factory frame alignment has the front/rear wheel offset by about 1/2".(factory spec track offset .47" or 12mm) There can be some alignment adjustment with the rear wheel shims, but I believe that they are more for tire clearance at the swing arm than anything else.
I also agree that load balancing has an effect on straight line travel.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Scott_Anderson wrote: | I believe that they are more for tire clearance at the swing arm than anything else.
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Not a clearance issue. Even the early 80s bikes with a 2.75" rear wheel have them.
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552255
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| Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:53 am Post subject: |
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Try the string method of checking frame alignment....use a magentic level to level up the bike (shim under center stand) then check the rear brake rotor for plumb,etc. and then the front rotors. If there is a problem you will see it in the gap between front tire and strings...I think its a 10mm tolerance either direction.
this will give you an indication of wheel offset...
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bikesnbones
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| Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: 1993 k1100rs PTTR |
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| 1993k1100rs wrote: | OK really? So today I installed my Throttlemeister kit. Sweet. Head out on the highway. WTF I keep having to knee the bike to keep it from drifting right. OMG has it been wrecked? That is the first thing that goes through my mind. No matter where I,m at on the road it drifts. So I get home do some Google work and low and behold Its perfectly normal for a Beemer.
Edit
I deleted the bulk of this post as it was made in a time of real frustration.
The net result of a tendency to drift would be loss of front tire life. Much like an auto you would expect straight tracking. It is not about riding hands free. |
Hope you don't mind me regurgitating an old thread.
It's just that I've noticed my K1100RS pulls to the right with hands off.
Before the safety police chime in, I might add that I have only ever done this under safe conditions.
I've just fitted two new tyres, and it's still there.
I remember another BMW I had years ago did exactly the same from new, and from what I've been reading recently, it is not an uncommon tendency not just with K's, but with R's too.
The fact that without exception, all reports of this issue seem to involve pulling to the right, and not left, indicates to me there is nothing fundamentally wrong with my bike.
I am interested as to why this should be.
I've heard some theorize that it's a weight bias to the right, which is where the final drive is, but my Guzzi Griso, which is weighted exactly the same, fly's straight as an arrow with hands off bars. |
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jay k.
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Funny this comes up now because I've been spending a good amount of time looking into this issue as it relates to mounting a K1200rs 5.5" rear wheel (as opposed to the 4.5" stock wheel).
I have the 5.5" wheel mounted with Pilot Road 4's. I originally tried two spacers, then removed them both. Without spacers; the wheel is still visibly offset to the left and has precious little clearance at the swingarm, but it does not rub. I don't know how far exactly it's offset; the right way to check is with a jig and I haven't had time to build one.
These things I know:
~These bikes make a lot of torque and that torque wants to turn the bike over to the right under de-acceleration.
~The BMW Shop Manual specifies a tolerance of up to 12mm or 1/2" offset.
~Many bikes pull one way or another, not just various BMW's. Some BMW's are notorious for how bad they are. K1100's are not known for this.
~We don't ever drive in a straight line...our paths are a series of small curves and corrections
~Even with the visible offset my bike tracks straight as an arrow
~If I put my camera bag in one saddle bag it's enough to make it pull to that side So imagine, for instance, if your butt is shifted one way or another, or the road is crowned, or the wind is blowing.
Just my $00.02...your experience may different.
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John Clauss
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Roads are intentionally made with a high spot in the center of the road to assist draining. The same force that clears the water, gravity, is also at work on the bike, and it will drift to the right. Many roads around here are so highly crowned that making a left can make you drag stuff, it can be very unnerving.
A slight drift to the right has nothing to do with the bike most likely.
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