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owrstrich
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 Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: Bipping The Throttle And Power Shifting |
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i find myself up shifting through the gears just bipping the throttle and punching it up a gear...
i was wondering if im saving my clutch or causing more damage to the clutch or the drive line...
also... when going from 2nd to 3rd at 8,000 rpm... bipp the throttle down to 7,750 rpm and lose the handle on the grips... which is pretty interesting at 100 mph while going from 2nd to 3rd... especially 2 up... will bipping down 7,500 rpm stabilize the process or cause the front end to nose down...
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BobZ(IL)
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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If you make a habit of matching rpm's between engine/trans up shifts can be made with little or no clutch lever action, especially if you preload the shift lever. This has to be easier on the clutch, less slipping.
Downshifting can be accomplished the same way but may take a little more practice blipping the revs up. Keep in the power band and shift, shift, shift.
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Tim (Midland Section)
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | i was wondering if im saving my clutch or causing more damage to the clutch or the drive line... |
Get it right, Yes. Get it wrong regularly, bye bye gears.
However, by learning how to do it on the Commando & a car I owned, meant being able to drive home when the clutch cable failed.
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I can see doing it when you have forward momentum, but how do you start off with no cable?
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Jim
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: no cable |
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owrstrich
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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i busted my clutch cable passing a mess of hells angels last summer...
i power shifted up and down untill i had to stop... then i just bumped it to neutral... i put a bungee on the bottom lever to get er going from a stop...
since then i got a smaller wire cable that snakes down the existing jacket in case it ever happens again...
it really was not an issue until i realized the gas station i stopped at was full of sons of silence... im fairly sure that why the hells angles stopped at the gas station across the street...
http://k11og.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=20739#20739
crazy aint it...
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Tim (Midland Section)
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| Off the grid wrote: | | I can see doing it when you have forward momentum, but how do you start off with no cable? |
Tis easy on a K, if a little cruel. With a warm engine, but not running, select first gear, drive off on the starter motor. Works too with cars. Did that for 90 miles when the clutch release bearing collapsed.
The Norton however, required a push from SWMBO who found that when I engaged gear & powered away, she was pushing nothing. Had it not been for the size of her tits & her helmet, she would have bashed her nose. When I went back to collect her she was more P*ssed at having to hang her a*se (butt) off the small seat on the BSA. ( I hadn't risen to the lofty heights of K11 ownership then)
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There's a rubber "cushion" in the front half of the drive shaft. If you're stressing the drive train regularly, you're going to be pretty hard on that.
Smooth is always best.....
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Klinker
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| Tim (Midland Section) wrote: | | ...required a push from SWMBO who found that when I engaged gear & powered away, she was pushing nothing. Had it not been for the size of her tits & her helmet, she would have bashed her nose... |
| Flying Duck wrote: | There's a rubber "cushion" in the front half of the drive shaft. If you're stressing the drive train regularly, you're going to be pretty hard on that.
Smooth is always best..... |
There's a "cushion" in the front half of SWMBO. If you're stressing the size of her tits regularly, you're going to be pretty hard.
Smooth is always best.....
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