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rover759 Big Brick Rider
Joined: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 68 Location: Houghton Regis,UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject: Steering head adjustment |
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| In the manual this makes no sense unless you have specialist tools.So the question is do you leave well alone if all is smooth or is there a sensible way of checking this? |
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wera32 Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 05 Apr 2003 Posts: 427 Location: Charlotte, North Carolina USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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I found the manual's description confusing too. Once you start messing with it it starts to make some sense. The setting ring is inexpensive or can be easily fabricated. To answer your other question, I wouldn't mess with it unless you have to. I only did mine when I changed the bearings a few years ago. _________________ Paul - '93 K11/12RS (sold), 2002 R1100S BCP and '03 RC51 KOG 29 |
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Shoganai Biscuit Fluffer

Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 2234 Location: Culpeper,VA
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:55 am Post subject: Re: Steering head adjustment |
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| rover759 wrote: | | do you leave well alone if all is smooth |
There's your answer right there.
I agree, only mess with that should you need to r/t bearing replacement. _________________ 1993 K1100RS aka The Shop Whore
1994 K1100RS aka Blue Streak
The long road is a rainbow and the pot of gold lies there.
So slip the chain and I'm off again,
You'll find me everywhere. I'm a Rover. - JT
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chopper_harris Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 232 Location: Nr Wigan, UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:44 am Post subject: |
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Modern motorcycle manufacturers seem to have an aversion to grease, yet it is the second most vital element behind engine oils.
I plan to keep my R100 RS until I die, so I have drilled the headstock to accept a grease nipple.
Drop the yokes before you drill, and clean the swarf THOROUGHLY. Reinstall the yokes and pack with grease by hand as best you can.
Reassemble the top yoke loosely, and pump up from the nipple until a good chunk of clean grease emerges top and bottom.
Set the correct head bearing torque, and enjoy.
Every 3,000 miles, loosen the yokes and give a dozen strokes with your grease gun - you will never need to touch the head bearings again  _________________ C1 200 (2001)
R100 RS (1990)
NSU Quickly N (1964)
Honda 400/4 F1 (1977)
MotoGuzzi 1000C (1978)
Suzuki TL 1000 R (1999)
Kawasaki KLV1000 (2005)
K12R Sport (2007) - Wifeys |
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bmwmick Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 07 Jun 2003 Posts: 907 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: Steering head adjustment |
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| rover759 wrote: | | In the manual this makes no sense unless you have specialist tools.So the question is do you leave well alone if all is smooth or is there a sensible way of checking this? |
Read through this procedure:
http://largiader.com/bearings/
I came up with a very cheap 'special' tool for steering head bearings.
Mick _________________ Mick McKinnon
KOG#175
'93 K1100LT, '96 R1100RT, '84 R100RS, 2010 Kawasaki C-14
Tucson, AZ |
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mike toon Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 16 May 2008 Posts: 117 Location: Beautiful Downtown Burbank CA
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| chopper_harris wrote: |
Every 3,000 miles, loosen the yokes and give a dozen strokes with your grease gun | That often? The wheel bearings on my cars don't get that kind of attention, and they have a greater load. I would expect BMW bearings to be superior to those in my 1964 Detroit throw away car.
[/img] _________________ Current Bikes
1993 K1100LT
1976 GL1000 Naked
1981 GL1100 Naked
2000 DR650 Dual Sport |
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chopper_harris Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 232 Location: Nr Wigan, UK
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:35 am Post subject: |
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yeah, but I'm a control freak
I make it part of the annual maintenance schedule. With 5 bikes on the read, each one covers less than 3,000 miles.
The are all serviced by time rather than distance. For a higher annual mileage, every major service (12,000 miles) would still be worthwhile.
Checking the head bearing settings once a year is a good practice, so why not lube them whilst you are doing that  _________________ C1 200 (2001)
R100 RS (1990)
NSU Quickly N (1964)
Honda 400/4 F1 (1977)
MotoGuzzi 1000C (1978)
Suzuki TL 1000 R (1999)
Kawasaki KLV1000 (2005)
K12R Sport (2007) - Wifeys |
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bmwmick Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 07 Jun 2003 Posts: 907 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| chopper_harris wrote: | Modern motorcycle manufacturers seem to have an aversion to grease, yet it is the second most vital element behind engine oils.
I plan to keep my R100 RS until I die, so I have drilled the headstock to accept a grease nipple.
Drop the yokes before you drill, and clean the swarf THOROUGHLY. Reinstall the yokes and pack with grease by hand as best you can.
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Unless you find a way to seal off the bearing area, that does nothing but create a mess. You would have to pump enough grease in there to totally fill your frame members. As the grease liquefies over the years, it just drips everywhere.
These bearings last almost forever if you clean, grease and adjust them every 30-40K miles.
Mick _________________ Mick McKinnon
KOG#175
'93 K1100LT, '96 R1100RT, '84 R100RS, 2010 Kawasaki C-14
Tucson, AZ |
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tibbe Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 190 Location: Lulea Sweden
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:39 am Post subject: |
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Hi
Feelt a slak in the steering and checked it by setting the K11LT on main stand and hijacked under the oilpan and lifting the fork.
Had a litle slack and noticed that both the lock nut and the lock tube where missing. No signs on the upperclamp of scrathes from a pevious lock nut. Strange indeed.
Ordered and installed lock tube and nut. Adjusted the bearring and tested on twisty roads, a noticable improvement in handling.
BTW. noticed that the front of the K11 seemed more flexible than the rear frame/swing taking corners with cracks in the tarmac.
Can it be the tyre or the frame/fork.
Stiffened the frame/fork of my -76 R100RS/Krausser and got the same effect by stiffen up the upper front part of the frame to much.
It's not a big issue as the K11 are handling well and not really a sportbike, but?
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hirschhs Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 343 Location: Bucks, UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Mine's pretty notchy.. chap I know said put it on the main stand, have someone press down on the rear and then swing the bars.. if it's still notchy, it can be adjusted i.e. slackened off a tad. Tried that, it is but can't move the lock nut, need to buy some tools methinks.. is he right? _________________ Cheers, Steve H _______________________________________
K-less in Bucks
2001 ST1100A
1994 Yamaha 600 Diversion 'Hers'
2006 Kawasaki Z750s 'Hers'
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