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CrazyIvan
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 Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:01 am Post subject: Battery draining |
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Hi,
There is something on my K1100RS draining the battery, I suspect the alarm which I don't use anyway. I don't expect anyone to answer directly on here, but could any kind soul point me in a direction please? Other than go to the dealers. I don't do that!
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Jim
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| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:01 am Post subject: battery drain |
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Hi - welcome to K11!
If you suspect the alarm, isn't it a fairly easy matter to disconnect the hot lead for the alarm? Seems like a logical place to start. I'm sure you'll get pointed in a few directions, at least...
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Flying Duck
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| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Follow both alternator wires.
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RobWheatley
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| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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With the ignition off remove the battery earth terminal and connect a multimeter set to Amps between the lead and the terminal, then you can see what is drawing the power by removing fuses and disconnecting things till it drops to Zero (ish, the clock will draw a very little power) when you know which fuse it is on its alot easier to trace.
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CrazyIvan
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:15 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the responses . When I get a chance I'll connect a meter up and see what is happening in more detail. And look at the wires from the alternator - nice and cryptic that one!
Incidentally, I was quite surprised at how difficult it was to get a wiring diagram for the bike, had to buy a CD in the end. |
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joeangi
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:50 am Post subject: |
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If it is the alarm, you could just disconnect the main plug for it in the power distribution box. Look back at a few threads under "what is this" if I remember correctly. Small white plug with 4 pins. This plug is just hanging there if you do not have the alarm.
Hope that helps....if it is the alarm.
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CrazyIvan
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| joeangi wrote: | If it is the alarm, you could just disconnect the main plug for it in the power distribution box. Look back at a few threads under "what is this" if I remember correctly. Small white plug with 4 pins. This plug is just hanging there if you do not have the alarm.
Hope that helps....if it is the alarm.
Joe |
Thanks Joe. Do you mean the relay box?
I can't find the thread you mentioned and am working away from my bike so am trying to get things clear in my head.
Ivan |
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joeangi
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry about that, it is under "missing parts under the tank" and yes it is the relay box. Round white connector
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CrazyIvan
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| joeangi wrote: | Sorry about that, it is under "missing parts under the tank" and yes it is the relay box. Round white connector
Joe |
Thanks Joe and everyone else.
I did what Rob suggested and was getting between 5.something mA and 7.5 mA with any combination of fuses.
Found the white plug you mentioned, disconnected it, reading dropped to 2.5mA which seems much more reasonable
However..... ABS lights now flashing although I know battery is fully charged 
Mmmmm........ |
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RobWheatley
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Hi
You just need to reset your ABS, there was a sticky for it or just do a search, easy to do.
Copied from sticky :-
Reset ABS Fault
Connect a wire from a good frame ground or battery - to pin #2 of the diagnostic connector.
Press and hold the ABS switch on the dash, turn the Ignition ON while holding the ABS switch depressed for 30 seconds. (Some folks report this works better if you turn on the Ignition and THEN press the ABS switch for 30 seconds. Both methods have worked for me). Release the ABS switch, turn the ignition OFF, remove the ground wire from pin #2. The ABS fault code 'should' now be erased. Go back to the fault
code display procedure to ensure there are no more faults stored. Only 1 fault can
be displayed at a given time.
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Mystic Red
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Reset ABS Fault
Connect a wire from a good frame ground or battery - to pin #2 of the diagnostic connector.
Press and hold the ABS switch on the dash, turn the Ignition ON while holding the ABS switch depressed for 30 seconds. (Some folks report this works better if you turn on the Ignition and THEN press the ABS switch for 30 seconds. Both methods have worked for me). Release the ABS switch, turn the ignition OFF, remove the ground wire from pin #2. The ABS fault code 'should' now be erased. Go back to the fault
code display procedure to ensure there are no more faults stored. Only 1 fault can
be displayed at a given time. |
If none of this works try all combinations you can think of as the reset can be very mysterious. 
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CrazyIvan
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Mystic Red"] | Quote: |
If none of this works try all combinations you can think of as the reset can be very mysterious. |
It didn't work for me after several attempts 
Will try again later |
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Flying Duck
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Check your battery voltage. ABS brains are susceptible to faulting if the battery is low.
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CrazyIvan
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Battery voltage fine. Fault only came on after disconnecting alarm plug. |
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Mystic Red
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Mystic Red wrote: | quot;]
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If none of this works try all combinations you can think of as the reset can be very mysterious.
It didn't work for me after several attempts
Will try again later |
I tried everything several times until it reset. Can't remember what worked now. Just keep trying, it will reset eventually when the ABS Gods decide it is time.
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endoman100
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Mystic Red wrote: | | Mystic Red wrote: | quot;]
Quote:
If none of this works try all combinations you can think of as the reset can be very mysterious.
It didn't work for me after several attempts
Will try again later |
I tried everything several times until it reset. Can't remember what worked now. Just keep trying, it will reset eventually when the ABS Gods decide it is time. |
the gods are working today,just went and cleared my ABS and the lights
are out
I did this
Reset ABS Fault
Connect a wire from a good frame ground or battery - to pin #2 of the diagnostic connector.
Press and hold the ABS switch on the dash, turn the Ignition ON while holding the ABS switch depressed for 30 seconds. (Some folks report this works better if you turn on the Ignition and THEN press the ABS switch for 30 seconds. Both methods have worked for me). Release the ABS switch, turn the ignition OFF, remove the ground wire from pin #2. The ABS fault code 'should' now be erased. Go back to the fault
code display procedure to ensure there are no more faults stored. Only 1 fault can
be displayed at a given time.
It took doing it three times but it finaly cleared  no more black tape for me
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BobZ(IL)
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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When the ABS lights are flashing before you reset, is the brake system functioning or do you have non-ABS brakes.
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Jim
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Bob - none of my business, really, but have you been drinking??? I think if a bike had non ABS brakes, it likely wouldn't have ABS lights...
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1992 K75RTP 46,000
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BobZ(IL)
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| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:20 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Bob - none of my business, really, but have you been drinking??? I think if a bike had non ABS brakes, it likely wouldn't have ABS lights...
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My bad.........Is the system not working when the lights are flashing?
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Jim
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| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:43 am Post subject: |
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| BobZ(IL) wrote: | | When the ABS lights are flashing before you reset, is the brake system functioning or do you have non-ABS brakes. |
Hi Bob - not bad - just interesting. I refer to your post immediately above - you reference non-ABS brakes - which would seem to preclude ABS lights...
If the lights are flashing - there's either a fault, failure, or low battery.
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