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E T
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 Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:11 am Post subject: Metzleler tire question |
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Any one on here be able to tell me anything about the metzeler lazertech tires??
I have run the metzleler me880 on my other bike and really liked them, but they only have my rear tire size, not the front, and metzeler recommends running the lazertech with the me880, but i like running matched..
I had the pireli sport demons on there, I have six thousand miles on the rear and almost to the wear indicators, and am looking for different tires..
I as wondering how good the lazer techs are and how they grip, And since the front is cupping, I just figured i would replace both as a set..
Thanks for any info..
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The lazertechs are all I have used on my bike. I am looking to go radial with my next tire change but the lazertechs have worked great for me and are great in wet weather.
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Oh goooooody, another tire thread...... 
Ed, seriously though, consider radials for your ride. 
There a number of us here running radials now.
Since you have an LT your not going to have much to pick from for "matched" branded tires.
Right now I have an Avon AV46 on the rear and a Metz Z6 on the front of my '95. I will put radials on my '97 when I have used up the extra set of bias that I took off of the '95.
As far as mileage goes I've got over 10K(probably closer to 12K) on the Avon and it's ready to be replaced. The Z6 is over 3K and should be good for this year yet.
The Z6 replace a Pilot Road 2 that was damaged late last year.
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You really should try running radials. Many of us here have and I, for one, would never consider going back to bias ply. It makes a world of difference and the handling is much more confidence inspiring.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| RAL88 wrote: | | The lazertechs are all I have used on my bike. I am looking to go radial with my next tire change but the lazertechs have worked great for me and are great in wet weather. |
Thanks on the info on these, IF i dont go radial on this change, I will go ahead and order these..
How has the mileage been on them?? I know the pirelli sport demons I have are great for traction, terrible for following grooves, and what i feel poor on mileage.
The front one was on it when i got it at 31200 miles, I now have 37300 and it is starting to cup, and I put the rear on at 32000 miles, I run 34/38 for pressure as that feels the best for handling when i am solo, and 36/40 two up, (I am a big guy) I cant say anything bad about the front cupping as it was on here before i got it, but it still shows good tread, but the back is almost to the wear indicators at 5300 miles.. I do tend to ride fast, so maybe that is adding to the short life.. and also i replace my tires as soon as they hit the low tread indicator.
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| Scott_Anderson wrote: | Oh goooooody, another tire thread......
Ed, seriously though, consider radials for your ride.
There a number of us here running radials now.
Since you have an LT your not going to have much to pick from for "matched" branded tires.
Right now I have an Avon AV46 on the rear and a Metz Z6 on the front of my '95. I will put radials on my '97 when I have used up the extra set of bias that I took off of the '95.
As far as mileage goes I've got over 10K(probably closer to 12K) on the Avon and it's ready to be replaced. The Z6 is over 3K and should be good for this year yet.
The Z6 replace a Pilot Road 2 that was damaged late last year. |
Thanks,
Who makes the radial in the proper size?? I sitll run the stock 18/17 rims for the time being.. but after talking to some people at the rock store here in so calif and seeing the rs rim, I think I am going to change over eventually.
Also, on the radial, do you still run the same size as stock, or is there a comparable size to run?? Thanks..
I will be on motorcycle superstores website checking tires again... With this weather we are having here in so cal, I have time to do some research.. 
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| Flying Duck wrote: | | You really should try running radials. Many of us here have and I, for one, would never consider going back to bias ply. It makes a world of difference and the handling is much more confidence inspiring. |
Thanks, I have been thinking of it, and am looking..
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IMO, the biggest difference is on high speed sweepers. Where the bias plies tend to make the rear fell like it's wallowing around the radias make it seem planted.
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| Scott_Anderson wrote: | Oh goooooody, another tire thread......
Ed, seriously though, consider radials for your ride.
There a number of us here running radials now.
Since you have an LT your not going to have much to pick from for "matched" branded tires.
Right now I have an Avon AV46 on the rear and a Metz Z6 on the front of my '95. I will put radials on my '97 when I have used up the extra set of bias that I took off of the '95.
As far as mileage goes I've got over 10K(probably closer to 12K) on the Avon and it's ready to be replaced. The Z6 is over 3K and should be good for this year yet.
The Z6 replace a Pilot Road 2 that was damaged late last year. |
Well, I just placed my order on this same set up, (thanks).
I like the sound of the miles you got out of them plus the looks, What air pressure would you suggest for the best on them, I am 6'5", and 290lbs, and my GF who rides with me most of the time is 5'1" and 135,
On the pirelli's I ran34/39 solo and 36/42 two up, We do enjoy the mountains and she is a good passenger so we do tend to make some good times in the mountains..
Thanks for all the help for all of you..
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| E T wrote: | | Scott_Anderson wrote: | Oh goooooody, another tire thread......
Ed, seriously though, consider radials for your ride.
There a number of us here running radials now.
Since you have an LT your not going to have much to pick from for "matched" branded tires.
Right now I have an Avon AV46 on the rear and a Metz Z6 on the front of my '95. I will put radials on my '97 when I have used up the extra set of bias that I took off of the '95.
As far as mileage goes I've got over 10K(probably closer to 12K) on the Avon and it's ready to be replaced. The Z6 is over 3K and should be good for this year yet.
The Z6 replace a Pilot Road 2 that was damaged late last year. |
Well, I just placed my order on this same set up, (thanks). The avon was 140.99 and the metz Z-6 was 122.98 shipped to my door..
I like the sound of the miles you got out of them plus the looks, What air pressure would you suggest for the best on them, I am 6'5", and 290lbs, and my GF who rides with me most of the time is 5'1" and 135,
On the pirelli's I ran34/39 solo and 36/42 two up, We do enjoy the mountains and she is a good passenger so we do tend to make some good times in the mountains..
Thanks for all the help for all of you.. |
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| E T wrote: | | Scott_Anderson wrote: | Oh goooooody, another tire thread......
Ed, seriously though, consider radials for your ride.
There a number of us here running radials now.
Since you have an LT your not going to have much to pick from for "matched" branded tires.
Right now I have an Avon AV46 on the rear and a Metz Z6 on the front of my '95. I will put radials on my '97 when I have used up the extra set of bias that I took off of the '95.
As far as mileage goes I've got over 10K(probably closer to 12K) on the Avon and it's ready to be replaced. The Z6 is over 3K and should be good for this year yet.
The Z6 replace a Pilot Road 2 that was damaged late last year. |
Well, I just placed my order on this same set up, (thanks).
I like the sound of the miles you got out of them plus the looks, What air pressure would you suggest for the best on them, I am 6'5", and 290lbs, and my GF who rides with me most of the time is 5'1" and 135,
On the pirelli's I ran34/39 solo and 36/42 two up, We do enjoy the mountains and she is a good passenger so we do tend to make some good times in the mountains..
Thanks for all the help for all of you.. |
I'm the same size as you and ran Lasertecs for 2 years. The last year that I was running radials the bike handled noticably better.
Most noticable on long sweepers or declining-radius turns as Duck said. Also, the Radials have a taller profile and smaller contact area with the tarmac. The effect of this is that the bike kind if "wanders" at first and is 1" taller than it was before. However they wear like iron and grip like a blue haired old lady holding her bingo card.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| Off the grid wrote: | | E T wrote: | | Scott_Anderson wrote: | Oh goooooody, another tire thread......
Ed, seriously though, consider radials for your ride.
There a number of us here running radials now.
Since you have an LT your not going to have much to pick from for "matched" branded tires.
Right now I have an Avon AV46 on the rear and a Metz Z6 on the front of my '95. I will put radials on my '97 when I have used up the extra set of bias that I took off of the '95.
As far as mileage goes I've got over 10K(probably closer to 12K) on the Avon and it's ready to be replaced. The Z6 is over 3K and should be good for this year yet.
The Z6 replace a Pilot Road 2 that was damaged late last year. |
Well, I just placed my order on this same set up, (thanks).
I like the sound of the miles you got out of them plus the looks, What air pressure would you suggest for the best on them, I am 6'5", and 290lbs, and my GF who rides with me most of the time is 5'1" and 135,
On the pirelli's I ran34/39 solo and 36/42 two up, We do enjoy the mountains and she is a good passenger so we do tend to make some good times in the mountains..
Thanks for all the help for all of you.. |
I'm the same size as you and ran Lasertecs for 2 years. The last year that I was running radials the bike handled noticeably better.
Most noticable on long sweepers or declining-radius turns as Duck said. Also, the Radials have a taller profile and smaller contact area with the tarmac. The effect of this is that the bike kind if "wanders" at first and is 1" taller than it was before. However they wear like iron and grip like a blue haired old lady holding her bingo card. |
You say wanders at first, do you mean in the beginning of the turn? or until getting use to them?? What kind of miles were you getting out of the lasertechs???
And how did they handle the grooves in the road?? I know the pirelli's are real bad about letting you know where the grooves in the road are..
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I was getting between 11-14k out of a set of Lasertecs.
By "wanders" I mean it feels "tippy".
The Radials have a more "V" profile and the Lasertecs have a more "U" profile.
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I did notice that the Michelin PR2 tires (ran them for the first time last season) reacted well to countersteering- get to the corner, push on the inside grip and the bike "falls" very easily into the turn- even with the stubby RS bars.
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| Quote: | | By "wanders" I mean it feels "tippy". |
More responsive? Quicker into the turns, maybe? That's the way I would describe the feeling. 
You're going to have the guy wondering what the hell he ordered 'em for.
You'll like them.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the help you guys have given me, this is the most research i have done on tires as, one, the hard time of finding matched sets, two, radial versus bias, three, mileage..
When i changed tires on my Honda vtx cruiser, it was easy, everybody was talking very good about the metz me880, and it was easy to find a matched set size..
I am going the Metz/Avon combo, and hopefully it will work for me, I do like the twisties, but don't do them like i did in my younger years, but most my riding is fwy...
Once again, thanks for all the input, you guys are great!!!
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:14 am Post subject: |
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Once again thanks for all the help, Between the probs of getting the combo i was gonna get and deep down wanting to go with the metz me880, I ended up with the 880, and the lazer tech front. because of the sizes, Metz recommends the lazertech with the ME880, so that i why i ran that combo..
I had the metz 880 on my vtx which is a lighter bike and had almost 10000 miles on it and it is still good. The traction was great, and the ride was great also, switching to that tire i didnt feel the grooves in the road anywhere near what i did with the stock dunlop..
I figured with the fact how happy i was with the 880 and that my k is heavier than my vtx, it would be a good tire, plus i also noticed that bmw uses it as the oem tire on the K1200LT, so figured it was good for the go..
I got the tires on the bike last night and took it for a short ride this afternoon, and totally different feeling, and its a good one..
One again, thanks for all the help you have given me..
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I just ordered Metzeler Z6 interacts, 110 front and 160 rear. They should be here next week and once it warms up enough to spend time in the garage I will put them on. I am changing out my rear rim for an RS. I will write a reveiw once I get enough time on them.
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