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Sudden stop from 140kph, what the !!!!!!

 
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sh059
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject: Sudden stop from 140kph, what the !!!!!! Reply with quote

Going to work the other day (a 120km trip) and 30km into the trip Kay decieded to come to a very quick stop. Frightened the hell out of me, hit the screen with my nose ( riding with the visor up), I grabed the clutch and next thing I was stopped. Couldn't move the bike as the back wheel was jammed. After I got her home Sad

Look what I found


The final drive end


The shaft in the swing arm


Most of the Uni

Have been quoted $875 for a new complete shaft.
Could have been worse I suppose Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy snikey's, that could have been bad. I'm glad to hear you
survived.

How many miles on your bike? Had you done any spline/u-joint
lubes?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scary stuff Shocked
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sh059
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi blackhoof, 229,600km on the dial and I did the splines about 4 months ago.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the retro hard bags. Good to see that you didn't go down on this one.

I have a good rear half of the drive shaft that I'll sell you for $110US shipped. Drop me a PM or email if interested.
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sh059
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flying Duck wrote:
I like the retro hard bags. Good to see that you didn't go down on this one.

I have a good rear half of the drive shaft that I'll sell you for $110US shipped. Drop me a PM or email if interested.


What do you mean retro?? I have pm ed you
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw a similar fact in a K1200LT with 98000km, with a custom torque arm, to keep the bike more high. I thought that the more accentuated angle of the joint in the shaft was the problem.
But I already heard that the universal joints in the shaft of the K11 and K12 are prono to fail after the 100.000km barrier.
Before I rode to Chile, I complete disassembled the final drive, to se the joints and that big bearing in the diff. All vas right, with 57000km.
In the 100k, I'll have to see again, I believe..
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sh059 wrote:
What do you mean retro??


"Old style" (retro) hard cases - notice that the reflector and BMW roundel are right next to each other:



Newer hard cases. They have rubber scuff pads, are large enough to fit a full faced helmet and the locks face outwards, not inwards:




(Edit: If you're seeing red X's, it's not my fault. My ISP, Comcast, is utterly worthless. Come back later and the pictures will show up - at random intervals. ARGHHHHH!!!!!)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy crap! Any weird vibrations or any other sign of its impending demise?

Glad you got it pulled off with nary a scratch!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You were lucky mate!

Sorry your card was pulled, but at least it's repairable.
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sh059
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ted wrote:
Holy crap! Any weird vibrations or any other sign of its impending demise?

Glad you got it pulled off with nary a scratch!


Thanks Ted, no indication was given that there was something amiss.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The break of the axle of the K1200LT of my friend also happened withoth any warn, and was no notice before the fact.
I was imagining what might happen a light jolt at the moments of acceleration / slowing down. But nothing of that happened.
He would exchange the axle, but the carcass of the differential one managed to repair them to he.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you didn't go down. Let us know if you find out what might have caused the failure.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G'day Stephen

Try Motohansa in Sydney or Munich Motorcyles in Perth for a new shaft.

Glad to hear that you are all right. Very sad to see a K on on tow truck.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same thing happened to me.

With very similiar damage - at 110kph this time, with no warning. I thought I'd had a rear blowout, but managed to stay upright.

The bikes a 95 LT with 88k on the clock.
Cost me $1300 all up with a new shaft and bearings etc.

Hopefully I have another 88k before I need to think about it again.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry guys
Seems I messed up with the pics javascript:emoticon('Embarassed')

What is the best way to add them ?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyr setting up a Photobucket account. Each image has a copyable link with the img tags already added.

http://photobucket.com/
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tip.

Trying again !






Not a pretty sight but worth seeing.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thankfully our generation of BMWs do not seem to suffer FD failures at the rate of the later models, but it is disconcerting at any rate.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was on a paralever system common to all post '93 K1100.
Although I suspect that there may be a question as to the possibility
that the U joints were out of sync.
Which may or may not have contributed to the failure.
I for one will make sure mine are synced having seen first hand what might/could/possibly happen. Can't do any harm to have them synced.
Can it ?
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