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Avon Azaros officially SUCK!

 
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Flying Duck
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:40 pm    Post subject: Avon Azaros officially SUCK! Reply with quote

Ok, so after reading raves about the mileage on these on some other ST boards, I bought a set about a year and a half ago. Didn't install them until July 07. Then didn't ride the LT much since I'd just bought the RS which is faster.

After riding down the coast, they WOBBLE. Lots at low speed (makes the last 10 feet of lane-slitting at stop lights between car mirrors VERY interesting) and less at high speed. In looking at the front tires, there are little chunks missing form the points of the tread blocks.

Gonig ro run into SF tuday and buy another set of tires after only 1,500 miles on these. ARGHHHH!!!!

But they did seem to run quite well on the RS - go figure.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps that was just a bad set? No tire should wobble at low speed like that.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Between Johnny's Avon experience on his RS and some posts I've seen on , it seems it might be just a quality control issue at Avon. Like I said, the ones on my RS seems fine - with the exception of the one that was mounted BACKWARDS at Ventura BMW - but even that one pretty well between Malibu and SF.

Since I bought them over a year ago, I'm not bothering with any warranty. I jsut want my bike to go straight.

Fortunately, KC Engineering in SF had the Mac50E front and Mac50 rear in stock so I pulled my wheels and got those installed. Having run several sets of those on my K75RT and one set so far on the LT, I'm sure those will work out fine.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Based on the experiences had by the riders on this board, I have zero intent of ever mounting Avons.

That said, I have been running Lasertecs for the past 2 years with fantastic results, why change what works?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Off the grid wrote:
Based on the experiences had by the riders on this board, I have zero intent of ever mounting Avons.

That said, I have been running Lasertecs for the past 2 years with fantastic results, why change what works?


How many miles do you get per set?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As low as 10k and as high as 14k.

They wear faster in the summer obviously.

/shrug

It's just kind of automatic now.

When I need tires just order a set from swmoto for around 230 delivered to my mechanic, mount and forget.

Plenty of traction and predictable, abliet I do have about a 1" chicken strip.

They do seem to "fall into" turns a bit quick, not sure if this is due to the 1100 being a large, topheavy bike or the tire, but they hook up well.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Off the grid wrote:
Plenty of traction and predictable, abliet I do have about a 1" chicken strip.


That's not a chicken strip, it's the whole bird! Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought that the only tires worse than the lasertec/me880 combo was the dunlops. Poor turn in, weak grip.

I liked the Macadam. A good combo between wearability and grip. I get 4000 miles a set. In my more casual days, I got 9000.

I'm going to try the Bridgestone Battleax BT045 next.

The Pirelli Sport Demons are very nice, but wear quickly. I'd expect 3000 miles if you ride it hard, 6000 if you ride more casually. (compare to Macadam numbers above).
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ I simply cannot afford those mileage numbers, I ride 15,000+ miles a year.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just bought a set of Michelin Pilot Road 2's, I'll let you all know how well they work for me.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been partial to the Bridgestone BT-021. I mounted a set last summer and have about 3,000 miles on them and they have plenty of tread left. I also love the amount of grip they have in both the dry and wet.

But of course tires, like oil is a very flammable topic.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Off the grid wrote:
^^ I simply cannot afford those mileage numbers, I ride 15,000+ miles a year.


So do I. In the last couple years, my mileage has dropped 50% becuase I'm doing a lot of rides with sportbikers and riding the bike much harder. The tires are heating up more and therefore wearing faster.

Prior to this I did a lot of commuting and long rides as opposed to hard riding in the twisties and got the longer mileage numbers I mentioned on the various tires.

I have never, in 12 years of owning the K1100LT, got 10k or more miles on any brand of tire, and I've tried nearly all of em. 9k is the best I've managed.

But as I mentioned, I get half that now. It's getting pretty expensive. Especially since I'm putting on more miles a year now. I'm doing tires every three months. And I have two bikes...
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