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Flying Duck · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:34 pm Post subject: LT Speakers - CDT CL-4X

I've tried everything. Infinity Kappas, regular Infinitites, Blaupuunkt, Audiobahn, Pioneer, etc..... These are the best yet. I have the high pass filter on my Pioneer head unit set to 125Hz which keeps the "woofers" from distorting and blowing.

They have a 2" mounting depth. This means that I had to grind down some of the strucutral ribs inside of the fairing. That doesn't bother me much though since I know that the fairing will crack there anyhow if the mirror hits with any force. (I learned this the hard way with a few downs on my K75RT.) Even after I gound down the ribs, it's still a VERY tight fit but I was able to get the fairing panel back on.

Face it, you'll never get really good bass out of a 4" speaker but these are the best I've tried so far. They're also the first speaker I haven't blown in the first 1,000 miles of riding. Rolling Eyes

Best price on these is $70 (w/ free shipping) at:
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_id=869

I found these surfing some audiophile sites.
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91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
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Off the grid · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject:

I hate you Drake.

Really.

If my wife ever meets you, just run.
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Off the grid · Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:37 am Post subject:

FU Drake.

Just FU!

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Flying Duck · Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:00 am Post subject:

Cool.

Have fun making them fit. Laughing

(It''ll be worth it though.)
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94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
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Gomedic

I happen to have an "extra" rear trunk without speaker mounts. So...I cut 14 1/4" slots along where the lumbar pad used to be. I went out and found the wire mesh for speaker covers and formed it to fit the slight curve. Inside, I mounted 2 6x9 Rockford Fosgates with a little rigged bracket that I bolted to the bottom of the trunk. Replaced my carpeting and hooked up a 50watt amp and some pretty blue lights (just for S&Gs) inside the trunk. Outcome?

Plenty of bass and killer highs! The lid stays closed and speakers stay dry! I even have enough room in trunk for small items! The amp helps to kick the sound forward at 80mph. Nothing like some Wilson Pickett blasting at ya down the freeway!

I'll post some pics soon.

Glenn
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Off the grid · Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject:

Couple of weeks with these speakers in and they definately do make a noticeable difference.

Loud enough to hear at 80mph with a full face and the shield open....clear too no or minimal distortion.

Getting them to fit is a pita though, I had to 86 my antenna (Which I never use anyway) and grind down the left fairing skeleton piece.

Like Drake said, hopefully they will not blow like many other speakers have.

I was at a light waiting to go to my auto mechanic who was in the shop waiting. He said he heard the Nickleback clearly from the light and was laughing when he said, "You have no idea how loud that is, do you?"

Money well spent imo.
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Flying Duck · Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject:

I've got 3700 mles on my CDTs now and haven't blown one yet- a personal best for speaker longevity. I think having the high pass filter on the head unit set to 125 Hz helps eliminate distortion.

My custom seat I had done last summer is NOT working out so I'll have to go and have some rework done on it. A buddy of mine had some "Bass Shakers" from one of his past cars lying around and he gave them to me.

When I have the seat redone I'm going to pull up the foam, install a bass shaker on the underside of the seat, hook up a small subwoofer amp to the head unit and pump the bass through the seat.

It'll be like when Howard Stern gets hot chicks/lesbians to sit on their speakers and turn up the bass. Laughing

OTG: Did you grind down the little rim on the inside of the fairing dash panel? Mine are really CRAMMED in there but I was able to get things back together that way and keep my antenna.
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93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
Buy parts HERE

Off the grid · Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:46 pm Post subject:

I don't have like a Dremel so I did the best I could busting the crap out of that fiberglass piece with a large wire cutter.

It MIGHT have fit with more trimming, but those little fiberglass pieces flying around made me nervous. Shocked

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Off the grid · Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject:

Only took a month and a half, left speaker blew yesterday.

And I never ride with the volume more than 80%.

For the price and mods/pain in the ass factor required to mount, I cannot give these a positive endorsement.
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Flying Duck · Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject:

It's probably the bass that killed them. My head unit has 125Hz high pass filter (only sound above 125Hz gets through)

You can also implement your own high pass filter using a capacitor. (a.k.a.bass blocker)

Like this 150Hz bass blocker:
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=761&i=127BB150A2&search=high+pass+filter&tp=3216

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93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
Buy parts HERE

Sonu · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:56 pm Post subject: An alternative

Friends,

I installed a pair of POLK AUDIO DB401 speakers in the front of my LT

I've had them for a month and am very satisfied. Why did I pick these given the excellent review by Drake on the CDT-CL-4X?

Main reasons:
1) Ease of installation. I did not want to grind down the structural ribs inside the fairing.
2) I wanted speakers that are marine rated

Minor reasons:
Speakers are readily available down the street so I could return them if they did not fit (major electronics stores like Circuit City and Fry's Electronics carry them)

Specifications of the two are comparable Polk v. CDT-CL-4X:
Sensitivity: 91db v. 90 db
Response freq: 85Hz to 22kHz v. 75 to 20kHz
RMS max Power: 45W v. 60W
Depth: 1 13/16" v. 2"
Price: $80 v. $80 ALTHOUGH Crutchfield will sell you a second pair at half price so if you're shopping for four speakers try Crutchfield.

Performance so far:
I'm very happy with them and just picked up a second pair for my trunk speaker location. MUCH better than stock speaker. I do not blow speakers as often as some of the other users on the board. The last set of (stock) speakers gave me ~30K miles. The Polk speakers are crisp even at 75mph. At 90mph I'm too busy focusing on the road and dont care about music anyway Wink

Sanjiv
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Flying Duck · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:14 pm Post subject:

Cool. Always helps to get more intel on what speakers work.

Let us know how the rear install goes - it's pretty cramped in there but if you can get them to fit I'll probably get some for my top case.
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93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
Buy parts HERE

mnb · Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:20 am Post subject:

I've got 12 years and over 50k miles on my stock speakers. Still workin great...
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Sonu · Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:40 am Post subject:

Flying Duck · Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:30 am Post subject:

Wow. You got a 4" speaker in the backrest? I"m impressed. Trimming ears is nothing.

I'll put this on my To-Do list.

I still have stockers in the back and they do OK but an upgrade won't hurt - and I can compare them to the CDTs in the front.

As for the CDTs, trimming the ribs in the fairing really won't upset the structural integrity of the RT/LT fairing. It cracks just as well with the ribs as it does without. I know from experience.

But it's great that you found a decent speaker with a workable mounting depth - every 16th of an inch really counts on these bikes.
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93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
Buy parts HERE

Off the grid · Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:48 am Post subject:

I have noticed that over time the "blown" left speaker sounds more normal, leading me to believe that it might have been just vibration against some metal that caused the irregular sound.

I do, however miss entire "octaves" or sections of songs....like I can play a song and not hear the entire rhythm guitar section.

I suspect this is the tape deck though and not the speakers.
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Flying Duck · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:41 pm Post subject:

FYI: Woofers ETC is having an invetory blowout on these speakers. $39.99 w/ free shipping. I couldn't resist and now have a pair mounted in the top case backrest as well.

(I originally was going to post that I "mounted them in the rear" but that would just get Gwen thinking dirty again. Rolling Eyes

)

http://www.woofersetc.com/p869/CL4EX--CDT-Audio-Classic-4"-Coaxial-Speakers.htm
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93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
Buy parts HERE

Jim · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:01 pm Post subject:

What did you have to modify to get those to fit? Anything?
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1992 K75RTP 46,000

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endoman100 · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:07 pm Post subject:

Not trying to hijack a thred but can you really hear music over the road/bike/wind noise through your helmet? I was just going to use my MP3 player. with head phones when I was able to get one.
Rt. now it's just no music for me, mine has no radio Sad

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Flying Duck · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:17 pm Post subject: