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Off the grid

He said to pick up a new K+N air filter and soak the shit out of it in motor oil and pop it in there.....he claims it will richen up the extremely lean-running K.
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Jim · Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:26 pm Post subject: K&N

you're not starting another K&N thread, are you??? I hope not.

How often do you have to change your air filter? How well does your bike run? How long do you want it to last?

You can get an air filter for less than $40.00 online. The BMW air filter does a better job of filtering than K&N. Almost everyone who has switched to K&N has switched back to a stock filter.
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Off the grid · Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject:

I think the point was the oil, not the brand of filter.

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Jim · Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:32 pm Post subject: K&N

well, the K&N is designed to be used with oil. I don't think I'll be soaking my new BMW filter...
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Off the grid · Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject:

Jim · Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: K&N

I was wondering why it was about the oil... You have to use filter oil with a K&N. I had a K&N on one of my bikes - a Yamaha. It was a RPITA.

not just riders - cage drivers, too. The K&N is good for race vehicles - 'cause they rebuild the engines all the time. The K&N does not filter as well as your stock filter. If you don't mind getting a bunch of crap in your engine, use a K&N. If you want your engine to last, use a stock filter.

The K&N probably catches as much of the big stuff as your stock filter, but lets the little stuff through. You'd probably have to clean and oil a K&N as often as you have to deal with your stock filter.

You don't have to change - or clean your stock filter very often. I pull the filter out and blow it out with the air gun, then stick it back in. You don't even need a new one once a year - unless you're a year round iron butt maniac - maybe.

Have you tried changing your filter yet? You either have to pull some of the bodywork off, or you have to hold your mouth just right. It isn't easy. I think it would be a TPIA to pull a K&N out to clean it and stick it back in all the time.
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Flying Duck · Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject:

Get another mechanic. Rolling Eyes

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Jim · Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject:

Off the grid · Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:15 pm Post subject:

Jim · Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:39 pm Post subject:

put more gas in it...
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Flying Duck · Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:33 am Post subject:

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Off the grid · Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:47 am Post subject:

Actually he just said "oil".

"Motor oil" was my noobness.

Don't confuse the two.
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Flying Duck · Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:51 am Post subject:

Jim · Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:23 am Post subject:

Off the grid · Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:40 am Post subject:

Plugs:

Dec 2007 73k
Changed plugs NGKs

About 10k miles/8 months
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SugarHillCTD · Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:40 am Post subject:

Couple of questions about this technique

"Soak the shit out of it". Do you let it drain off before placing it in the airbox or put it in dripping wet??

If this oil-logged filter helps the engine when you first run it, that condition will soon change and your lean situation will return. The oil will be rapidly sucked out of the filter and the engine will be back to running lean very quickly.

The subject of K&N filters is regularly brought up on turbo-diesel forums and rapidly dismissed. The manufacturer states that they flow more air- always giving some "up to xx% more". The way that happens is to filter LESS.
Not in my engine, you don't.
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owrstrich · Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:55 am Post subject:

i read somewhere that you can take the air box off and fix a cone type filter to the air inlet... it would free up the under tank so hot air would dissipate better reducing the hot tank and the roast and the cone filter moved lotts o air for better performance...

i didnt book mark the thread on another forum and now i cant find it... there was photos and all... looked to be very effective...

anyone know of this mod...

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