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I've retrofitted my indicators with 360 degree LED lamps

http://www.jaycarelectronics.com.au/productView.asp?ID=ZD0360&CATID=&keywords=led+lamp&SPECIAL=&form=KEYWORD&ProdCodeOnly=&Keyword1=&Keyword2=&pageNumber=&priceMin=&priceMax=&SUBCATID=

and they work great. The side effect, as expected, is that the flasher can beats ten to the dozen. Which is probably not a bad thing. Flicking the indicators for a poofteenth if a sec, to change lanes, results in 5-10 flashes instead of one.

Is there an electronic flasher can out there that will allow the normal on / off duration to bring things back to normal.

Please don't suggest fitting a resistor as this defeats the purpose of having the LED's in the first place.
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John

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'96 K1100LT-SE

rkildu · Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:46 am Post subject:

I'm told that the following one will work on airheads, but I have not gotten on yet so I can't verify:

www.LEDbulbssuperumination.com part # for air heads is

cf13gl-02

Rod
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97 K1100LT HighLine
82 R100Lufty

K11Martin

RAL88 · Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject:

If I am thinking the way John is then you can have a load across the relay but this uses just as much energy as an incandecent bulb. I put LEDs on my bike not only for the sake of never having to change them but also you use less power for the bulbs and can add more accessories.

Rich
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"If it ain't broke, take it apart and make it work better"
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'97' R850GS-R

Flying Duck · Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:40 pm Post subject:

There are LED flasher relays out there. There a few issues that a flasher relay would have to address:

The fact that our bikes have momentary turn signal switches. (So I don't think a car flasher relay would work in most cases.)

Same thing with how the cnacel function works and you'd most likely lose the auto-cancel functionality that your bike currrently has.

You'd probably want it to support hazard lights.

I think you could do it at the flasher relay wiring harness connector and would need to rewire:

All 4 turn signals.
Instrument cluster indicator bulbs.
Hazard switch.
Turn signal switches.
Cancel switch.
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Flying Duck · Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject:

In thinking about this, I think the best thing to do would be to find out how to disable the load sensing or hyperflash by modifying the circuitry in the flasher relay. I did some Googling and found that people have figured out how to do it on some car flasher relays. I imagine it could also be done to the K flasher relay. Maybe someone like bmwmick could figure it out.
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K11Martin · Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:41 am Post subject:

Gary Bennett · Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:01 am Post subject:

Just put the Load Resistors on, if you put LED's in to save on power consumption, there is not much point to that as the alternator is still churning out the same amount of power if you use it on not.

I have no incandecent bulbs at all on my bike, I have a HID Headlight and all the other bulbs have been replaced with LEDs because they are more noticable to others and they last heaps longer than incandecents.

I doubt that the flasher unit can be modified, however an electronic flasher unit could be used with the existing switch gear by using a couple of relays to switch the power on and off to the flasher unit, but as I said it's pointless and too much trouble.
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'94 K1100RS

RAL88 · Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:43 pm Post subject:

Flying Duck · Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:01 pm Post subject:

Turn signals are only 20-21W and only on momentarily. The wiring will last 200k miles easily. The headlight is a different issue as it uses 55/60W, is on all of the time and all of the power goes through the switch which is the most common point of failure as little sparks are created every time you switch between high and low - these little sparks gradually degrade the contacts. Adding relays greatly reducies the current through the switch and significantly reduces/eliminates the degradation caused by switching the headlight. The turn signals are alreayd controlled by the flahser relay.
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86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
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Gary Bennett · Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:12 am Post subject:

I don't know what you guys are talking about, but i'm talking about using the relays to act as switches only. Not to carry the load at all.

The relays would be needed as the handle bar switches are only momentary switches, which means that if you used an electronic flasher unit instead of the factory setup, you would have to hold the handle bar switch in to make the flasher operate, let it go and it will stop flashing.
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