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larryb22 · Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:11 pm Post subject: dip stick

You are on the money Duck.
Here is a link to some pictures.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/labco333/?saved=1

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Stoked Steve · Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Post subject:

So what is the exact distance from the under side of the "L" and the "Max" mark?

I guess I'll make my own.
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larryb22 · Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject: dip stick

The width is just under a quarter inch.
Total length is 4 7/8"
The level line is about 5/16 up from the bottom.
(the line is about 4 1/2" under the top bend.)

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Scott_Anderson · Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:26 pm Post subject:

Steve, if you want the metric, the max line is 115mm down from the inside lip that will set on the tranny housing.
You can then mark anything for that purpose.
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Stoked Steve · Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:36 pm Post subject:

Thanks guys!
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dave n · Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:12 pm Post subject:

I dump a quart in @ change - no problems yet.
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owrstrich · Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:31 pm Post subject:

dip stick = i thought this thread was about me...

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Flying Duck · Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject:

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RobWheatley · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:23 pm Post subject:

Isn't the "C" spanner for the shock the gearbox dipstick? thats what i have used it for anyway, got the level line stamped in the handle end.
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MakaSichu · Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 1:56 am Post subject: Re: dip stick

I've never seen a YELLOW K1100RS.
Hot damn that looks good!! Cool

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Beachcomber · Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:14 am Post subject:

Here's the skinny on the C Spanner dipstick from our end. Laughing

The level mark is indeed 115mm down from the register.

It works on ALL K75's, ALL K100's and SOME K11's. Wink

I have a '93 and it does NOT go all the way down, my pal has a '94 and it does - go figure! Rolling Eyes

I was told by several well informed sources that the trannies were all the same only the Paralever housing distinguishes. That is patently NOT true as there must be some internal differences that allow the spanner handle to go all the way in on some Paralever boxes and not others.

Here's a theory - the trannies from the original Para may have been beefed up in some way to take the extra strain of the Paralever layout.

The 75 / 100 models come with the mark on the OEM C Spanner supplied in the tool kit - that's what was originally used for the sample for the RAM spanner supplied with the shock. It works perfectly with 75 /100 and only some K11's.

The mark IS in the correct place [ lazer cut ] - but won't work on all K11 Trannies. I'll try to find out just what te internal differences may be. Any K11 tranny experts out there?

It's not practical to make the handle thin enough to pass down the obstruction in some boxes. although AC is going to try a one off to see if it's viable.

Hope that clarifies the "C Spanner" question Cool

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Flying Duck · Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:10 am Post subject:

Take a look at the parts catalog. With the exception of 5th gear on K75s and the mount for the paralever on 4 valve Ks all of the transmission parts are the same.

I've got a 93 and a 94 and the K75/K100 shock wrench works fine for checking the gear oil level on both of them.
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Stoked Steve · Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:55 am Post subject:

TJ, I wouldn't spend too much energy trying to make a spanner to work as a dipstick too. None of us bought the shock for that reason and I've never had any kind of dipstick at all.

It was a nice plan, but I wouldn't compromise the spanner thichness just for that.
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Beachcomber · Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:58 am Post subject:

Steve,
it's no longer a matter of working or not - it's now a "why"! Twisted Evil

Today I went for a ride out and spotted 2 K11's parked up. I asked the obvious question - one was a '93 and the other a '96. Spanner worked in both and also my K100 [ which I used today ]. The owners were also mystified at the apparant differences in some boxes.

Flying Duck, thanx for your input. Wink

I think I must just accept that there is a difference and the spanner is what it is - but the engineer in me now demands an answer! Cool

As you say, doesn't detract from the shock, and it was only a last minute add on anyway.

Off to the annual Classic Bike show at Bingley Hall in Stafford tomorrow to have a nostalgia wallow, Laughing

TJ
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Stoked Steve · Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:16 pm Post subject:

Just a thought, would it have anything to do with what gear it is in? Or nuetral? I haven't played around with it in different gears, but that might explain the apparently random nature of it fitting or not.
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Beachcomber · Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:03 am Post subject:

Steve,

I came to the very same conclusion! However,I didn't have an opportunity over the weekend to check it out.

I'll do so this week - hopefully, that might be the answer.

If not, my pal has a very clever little camera gizzmo on the end of a flexible stalk [ he's a mechanic, NOT the SWAT team ! Cool

] that should be conclusive.

It's ANNOYING more than anything not having the answer.

TJ
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Stoked Steve · Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:06 am Post subject:

Tried it in different gears, neutral, false neutral, clutch in and out, still won't fit.

I could feel something moving though when I had it inserted and was shifting the gears, but not enough movement to let it down into the gearbox.

Oh well, the "L" shaped dipstick is only a few dollars, I think I'll order one.
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Phil Marvin · Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:30 pm Post subject:

Hi, All,
The "L" dipstick was in the toolkit of both my '95 and '96 K1100LT's. The shock spanner (wrench) had no line engraved in either toolkit. The shock spanners in the toolkits of both my '94 and '95 K75's have the line engraved.
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Beachcomber · Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:55 am Post subject:

Well the folk at RAM did try - honest guys! Wink

TJ
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