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supercat1 Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 458 Location: Hoboken, NJ
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:39 am Post subject: how to remove k11rs mirrors |
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so here's the situation. i just recently (last week) had to replace the plate behind the right side mirror due to it getting bent in a spill (the week before). not proud of that one at all, but at least i learned a little about the internals of the bike. it slid on and then snapped into place. now it is solid as a rock.
tonight, as i'm putting it back in the garage, i notice that the left hand mirror has come off its bottom peg and won't stay on there. i'm wondering if anyone knows how to remove the mirror properly so i can then reseat it properly or at least find out why it isn't staying seated.
thanks!
edit: well, oops, i forgot to hit submit. so anyways, between writing that above at 9:45 and now at 12:30 i have solved my problem. but probably in the most difficult manner possible. this was definitely not a good second wrenching job to do on the bike. on the positive side, it is done, and works just like new (as far as i can tell at least). on the negative side, i lost a 2 washers, a screw, can't get the signal cover's gasket back in place (probably just needs a new one as this one is really old) and found out that there were at least 3 other screws already missing from the bike. so, i'm headed to the hardware store tomorrow to find replacements. at least the bike is back together again.
next up on my list -- determining the source of the vibrations. _________________ (formerly) 1993 k1100rs |
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owrstrich Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 29 Oct 2006 Posts: 2566 Location: CheezConsin
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:08 am Post subject: |
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greetings supercat1...
where be you...
j o _________________ yeeeeeehaaaaaaa... |
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supercat1 Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 458 Location: Hoboken, NJ
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:02 am Post subject: |
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just a short jaunt down 1-35 from downtown kansas city. _________________ (formerly) 1993 k1100rs |
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl

Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10102 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:17 am Post subject: Re: how to remove k11rs mirrors |
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| supercat1 wrote: | | next up on my list -- determining the source of the vibrations. |
New plugs, throttlebody synch, Techron Concentrate _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
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supercat1 Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 458 Location: Hoboken, NJ
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:22 am Post subject: |
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okay. when you say plugs you mean spark plugs correct? in all honesty, are those pretty straight forward to replace?
and still on topic, anyone know how to properly remove the mirrors for future reference?
thanks! _________________ (formerly) 1993 k1100rs |
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl

Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10102 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| supercat1 wrote: | | okay. when you say plugs you mean spark plugs correct? in all honesty, are those pretty straight forward to replace? |
Yes:
Remove belly pan. 8 bolts around the rim, 2 down below on the bottom rear. I usually put a couple of blocks of wood or a cardboard box underneath to support it while removing it.
The engine is an in-line 4 on it's side, the spark plugs are on the left side.
The spark plug leads are sticky on the plugs. I usually use some small vice grips on the "tab" and give them a good yank. I usually just write the cylnder number on the spark plug leads to make life simple when putting them back on. If you forget, thay have sequential part numbers on their wires.
Your factory tool kit (if you got one with the bike) has a cylindrical tool with a nylon collar and two hex ends. The larger end is your spark plug wrench.
Spark plug choices:
Economy: Autolite 4163 or NGK DR7EA
BMW $$$: Bosch XR7LDC
What I and some others prefer ($32/set on FleaBay): NGK DR7EIX (but you have to get the little screw-on ends for them)
Gap: 0.024"
Be sure you have the spark plug leads pushed back on firmly.
| Quote: | and still on topic, anyone know how to properly remove the mirrors for future reference?
thanks! |
Removal: Outer edge of mirror front to back.
Install: Bottom two clips, then top clip. Sometimes it helps to put a little WD-40 on the nipples of the metal plate.
If the clips on the mirrors are getting old, you can bend them back a little with pliers or replacements can be had new from BMW for about $1.50 each. Part # 46631455047
Even new lens gaskets are a PITA to install correctly. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
Buy parts HERE |
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl

Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10102 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:48 am Post subject: |
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One other thing: A lot of us buy steel fishing leaders and make "leashes" for the mirrors. That way if they get knocked off by somone brushing aginst the bike they just hang there instead of crashing to the ground. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
Buy parts HERE |
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supercat1 Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 458 Location: Hoboken, NJ
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| Flying Duck wrote: | | supercat1 wrote: | | okay. when you say plugs you mean spark plugs correct? in all honesty, are those pretty straight forward to replace? |
Yes:
Remove belly pan. 8 bolts around the rim, 2 down below on the bottom rear. I usually put a couple of blocks of wood or a cardboard box underneath to support it while removing it.
The engine is an in-line 4 on it's side, the spark plugs are on the left side.
The spark plug leads are sticky on the plugs. I usually use some small vice grips on the "tab" and give them a good yank. I usually just write the cylnder number on the spark plug leads to make life simple when putting them back on. If you forget, thay have sequential part numbers on their wires.
Your factory tool kit (if you got one with the bike) has a cylindrical tool with a nylon collar and two hex ends. The larger end is your spark plug wrench.
Spark plug choices:
Economy: Autolite 4163 or NGK DR7EA
BMW $$$: Bosch XR7LDC
What I and some others prefer ($32/set on FleaBay): NGK DR7EIX (but you have to get the little screw-on ends for them)
Gap: 0.024"
Be sure you have the spark plug leads pushed back on firmly. |
thanks! i'll pick up a set here soon then. i'll need to check to make sure i have the plug tool, but i feel like i probably do as the kit has everything else. i read a couple write ups on the throttlebody sync and figured i would do that here soon. just gotta get the sync tool first.
| Flying Duck wrote: | | Quote: | and still on topic, anyone know how to properly remove the mirrors for future reference?
thanks! |
Removal: Outer edge of mirror front to back.
Install: Bottom two clips, then top clip. Sometimes it helps to put a little WD-40 on the nipples of the metal plate.
If the clips on the mirrors are getting old, you can bend them back a little with pliers or replacements can be had new from BMW for about $1.50 each. Part # 46631455047
Even new lens gaskets are a PITA to install correctly. |
yeah i tried to put the gaskets for the lens back in when it fell out and just ended up saying eff it. i think the gasket is as old as the bike and so probably time for a new one. i tried to take the mirror off in that manner but i was just deathly afraid of breaking it. so i figure the hassle i went through was worth not paying the $150+ for a new mirror. gotta have some scratch to pay for gas and a new paint job this winter!  _________________ (formerly) 1993 k1100rs |
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Phil Marvin Rider in the Sky
Joined: 03 Apr 2003 Posts: 1389 Location: El Paso, Texas, USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, Supercat1,
Flying Duck has given you some good advice. Personally, I am happier using a ratchet, extension and plug wrench instead of the tool in the tool kit to change plugs. The plug wrench is an 18mm spark plug socket (deep socket with the plug insert), NOT a 5/8" or 13/16". If you use Champion plugs, I believe they use the 5/8" socket, but Bosch, NGK and Autolite (what I use) take the 18mm wrench. And remember, if you decide on NGK plugs, they do NOT come with the little cap for the top of the plug. Don't forget to get them from your auto parts store. They are molded (cast?) into the Bosch plug and they come with the Autolite plugs even though you might have to screw them on. Make sure they are tight. _________________ Ride Safe,
Phil Marvin in El Paso, TX
'94 K75A/3
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supercat1 Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 458 Location: Hoboken, NJ
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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phil,
thanks for the heads up on the tool(s) needed. i should consider getting a socket wrench set. i don't own one yet and it is definitely a very useful tool; i've just never really had the need for one before. guess i'll be hitting up home depot/sears after work. need a good screw driver (preferably ratchet, with extending arm that has a magnet on the end) and the socket wrench.
i got some of the techron concentrate during lunch along with new gaskets for the front lenses, put an order in for a new left lens, and a couple screws i needed. i'll get some new plugs in a little bit. _________________ (formerly) 1993 k1100rs |
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supercat1 Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 458 Location: Hoboken, NJ
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Flying Duck wrote: |
BMW $$$: Bosch XR7LDC
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well, just bought myself a set of 4, new in box, from beemerboneyard for $25+shipping. doesn't seem like too bad a price. _________________ (formerly) 1993 k1100rs |
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Off the grid Chaotic Good

Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 3414 Location: At the local taco truck waiting for Jo.
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Flying Duck wrote: | | One other thing: A lot of us buy steel fishing leaders and make "leashes" for the mirrors. That way if they get knocked off by somone brushing aginst the bike they just hang there instead of crashing to the ground. |
Or tumbling down the highway.  _________________ Bane of your existence since July 2006
2007 Triumph Tiger ABS. "Sabertooth"
2009 Husqvarna TE610. "The dirty Italian mistress"
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supercat1 Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 458 Location: Hoboken, NJ
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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guess i don't really know what these "fishing leaders" are or how to use it to make a "leash" for the mirror. is the leader the thing you put the fish on after you caught them, or just thick fishing line?
and considering i wasn't able to push the mirror off on my own i don't feel like a simple bump will knock them off. but of course i was scared of breaking the bike and needing to buy at least $160 new mirror housing, while some random dude that hits my bike is not thinking about that ...
was that a good price for the plugs i got? _________________ (formerly) 1993 k1100rs |
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Mystic Red Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2330 Location: Twin Lakes Idaho
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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supercat1,
http://www.ibmwr.org/ktech/krs-mirror-removal.shtml
Leader is the line, thin braided steel line, and you hook it inside the mirror. Then thread it through and hook it somewhere inside the fairing so if the mirror comes off accidentally it won't hit the ground thus saving you $160. _________________ Scott Hespelt, '94 K11LT
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supercat1 Flying Brick Rider
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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wow ... that all sounds so much more violent than i would have expected ... guess these parts can take a bit more of a beating than i expected. _________________ (formerly) 1993 k1100rs |
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Phil Marvin Rider in the Sky
Joined: 03 Apr 2003 Posts: 1389 Location: El Paso, Texas, USA
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| supercat1 wrote: | | Flying Duck wrote: |
BMW $$$: Bosch XR7LDC
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well, just bought myself a set of 4, new in box, from beemerboneyard for $25+shipping. doesn't seem like too bad a price. |
Hi, Supercat1,
You're right; it's not too bad a price compared to a BMW dealer. But that's why I use the Autolites. I've never had a problem with them, neither on my K1100LT's nor my K75's, and they normally cost me a bit over $1 each. Autolite 4163, if you want the number. _________________ Ride Safe,
Phil Marvin in El Paso, TX
'94 K75A/3
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Off the grid Chaotic Good

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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Leashes
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2007 Triumph Tiger ABS. "Sabertooth"
2009 Husqvarna TE610. "The dirty Italian mistress"
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supercat1 Flying Brick Rider
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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ah, i see what you mean. i figured you would have run them behind the mirror glass though. did you put a new hole in your mirror for that mod? oh, and where is the bike in that pic? i can't seem to find it behind all those add ons.  _________________ (formerly) 1993 k1100rs |
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Mystic Red Flying Brick Rider

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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | ah, i see what you mean. i figured you would have run them behind the mirror glass though. |
Would be easier to do on your RS. LT's don't have the signals in the mirrors so holes would have to be made. Just follow the wiring. You really should pop a mirror off just for the sake of slapping her around a little.  _________________ Scott Hespelt, '94 K11LT
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Jim Site Admin

Joined: 17 May 2003 Posts: 3841 Location: WHERETHEFUNNEVERENDS
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject: RS mirrors |
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supercat - you can easily attach tethers to your RS mirrors - the LT mirrors are totally different. _________________ Jim
1997 K1100LTSE 94,000 - still has gremlins!
1995 R100RT Classic 16,650 crashed - repaired!
1992 K75RTP 46,000
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