K11 Owners Group

joeangi · Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:30 pm Post subject: Heated Grip Question

I am in the process of installing the factory heated grip kit. The real expensive factory unit, that came with a new set of handlebars and everything. Don't ask, they were a gift.

I am looking for the wiring in the loom under the tank, I know it is there, as I remember seeing it. (ran out of time this morning before work). The factory wire connector that mates to the grips, has two separate connectors on it, a small two wire plug and a larger four wire plug. When I put the kit on my K100, I only remember it having a 4 wire plug. I do not see a place for the small 2 wire plug? Anyone else seen this? Any clues?

Thanks for any advice.
Joe
_________________
1994 K1100RS
1986 K100RS

Flying Duck · Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:50 pm Post subject:

Left side under tank. Green/black and brown wires.
_________________
93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
Buy parts HERE

Stoked Steve · Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:27 pm Post subject:

Slightly more rearward than the other plugs, about 2/3'rds of the way toward the rear of the tank, might be under the frame tube, left side.
_________________
Steve
Virginia Beach, VA
93 K1100RS Mystic Red SOLD
12 Suzuki DL650A VStrom

Off the grid · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:47 am Post subject:

Not trying to piss in your cornflakes Chris, but it's too bad your "gift" wasn't an aftermarket set of heated grips.

Most people with the BMW set have had a failure and one failure even let to a meltdown of the entire wiring harness.

I think you might be safe because of redesign and the newness of it. (most failures were caused by flimsy design out of the gate and 15+ years of use)
_________________
Bane of your existence since July 2006
2007 Triumph Tiger ABS. "Sabertooth"
2009 Husqvarna TE610. "The dirty Italian mistress"

Flying Duck · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:06 am Post subject:

OTG:

Are you just hanging around to shit on BMW every chance you get?

It's getting old.

I bought a 170k K75RT that had working heated grips. I moved them over to my bike and they kept working for another 20k or so until I crashed it and parted it.

Yes, they do have a failure rate but it's nowhere near as high as you'd like to pretend.
_________________
93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
Buy parts HERE

Off the grid · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:31 am Post subject:

Jim · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:08 am Post subject:

OK OTG - so your BMW heated grips failed. That doesn't mean that most of everyone else's did.

Yeah, there's a poll - but the failure rate reported here seems to be fairly low.
_________________
Jim
1997 K1100LTSE 94,000 - still has gremlins!
1995 R100RT Classic 16,650 crashed - repaired!
1992 K75RTP 46,000

"We shall not all die, but we shall all be changed."

Off the grid · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:49 am Post subject:

What ratio is enough for you? 30%? 20%?

What is a "high" failure rate?

Let me guess....the same number of people that have/had fairing bracket cracks or main seal oil leaks. Rolling Eyes

What is this, Mod gang up on OTG day?

*Perhaps you mods would be better served, you know, actually MODDING this forum where people come and spew outrageous lies and create fake profiles rather than gang up on a longstanding member who brings up a valid known issue in a respectful manner.
_________________
Bane of your existence since July 2006
2007 Triumph Tiger ABS. "Sabertooth"
2009 Husqvarna TE610. "The dirty Italian mistress"

Saltcreek · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:06 am Post subject:

Can't we all just get along?
Hey Dave, you on crutches yet?
_________________
Jim

1994 K1100LT Mystic Red, bfd, 37000 miles, sold Sad

2009 Wilderness Systems Zephyr 155 ST
2002 Litespeed titanium

joeangi · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:27 am Post subject:

Boy this thread spun out of control right quick. I was just wondering where the second plug plugged in (black plug). I only remember 1 plug with my other set of grips. I am happy that I got the factory grips.

Thanks for the help.
Joe

_________________
1994 K1100RS
1986 K100RS

Ted · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:38 am Post subject:

Let's put the disagreements to bed folks - it is never a great idea to criticize a purchase after it is made, nor is it a great idea to let things get personal. This board is flame-free, was made that way and will continue on that way Very Happy

I put the BMW Heated grip set on my K11RS and LOVED it, was the single best thing I did to it. Just be exceedingly careful when installing, the fine and somewhat fragile wires can get kinked very easily when threading them through the bars (something that can lead to failure). The wire connection at the grip is also not what I would call "overbuilt" so don't tug on them (yes, from my K75S heated grip install, don't ask me how I know!) If you use the zip-ties, make sure to fully lock to lock the handlebars to make sure there is plenty of slack and no pulling, that will also lead to wire chaffing and failure. It was some time ago so I am not sure if I remember two separate connections for the grips themselves, maybe one for the switch and one for the grips?

In all I did this on both my K75S and my K11RS and was thrilled with the clean and stock look, and MAN do those things heat up on the high setting!

That said, my new-to-me K75RT has them from the factory Cool

_________________

Ted

KOG#1

Ted · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:51 am Post subject:

Found your answer on the IBMWR tech site, this article:

joeangi · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:59 am Post subject:

I love the ones I put on my K100, and yeah, I also learned the hard way about how fragile they are at the grip end. I actually had to re-solder a wire that I ripped off, and they have worked great, for about 5 years now.

Joe
_________________
1994 K1100RS
1986 K100RS

joeangi · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:05 am Post subject:

Thanks Ted, I must be brain dead, the white plug goes to the dash switch....Black to power plug. I was looking for 2 plugs in the loom...only remebering one. Now I have to find it...it is hiding. Thanks for help.
_________________
1994 K1100RS
1986 K100RS

Ted · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:11 pm Post subject:

joeangi · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:43 pm Post subject:

Hi guys....I still cannot find the plug for these grips. I just spent almost an hour looking for it. I have even started cutting away the black cloth tape wrap looking for it. I am under the left frame rail, under the tank about half way...and I see nothing. My previously very neat job of wiring up my autoswitch and HID's has all been pulled apart, so I could see better. I am ALMOST at the point of cutting off the plug and hard wiring it in.

Does anyone remember if it is before the large "arm" of wires that is terminated with wire nut looking heat shrink? I am assuming that it is between the power distribution box and that arm of the loom.

Thanks...this should not be this frustrating.
_________________
1994 K1100RS
1986 K100RS

Flying Duck · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:46 pm Post subject:

It MAY be under tape so look for suspicious lumps.

Keep hunting, it's there.
_________________
93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
Buy parts HERE

Ted · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:12 pm Post subject:

Take a look at this:

I believe it is the pigtail hanging down just to the left of the #9 - both of mine were taped over with the pigtail on the bottom of the loom, hence you look for and feel for the pig in the boa lump. It should be taped over with a separate piece of tape so you don't need to cut anything, just find the tape and unravel the piece.
_________________

Ted

KOG#1

Stoked Steve · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:14 pm Post subject:

I wish I could help you more, mine was pretty easy to find, actually I found it before I knew what it was, asked here and was told what it was.

My only suggestions are, again, that it is a small plug that comes out of the wrapped wires on the left side by itself about 2/3's the way toward the rear of the tank. It comes out by it's lonesome before the more forward mess of wires emerges.

As others here have suggested, maybe it got wrapped up and is hiding under the tape.

Good luck!
_________________
Steve
Virginia Beach, VA
93 K1100RS Mystic Red SOLD
12 Suzuki DL650A VStrom

Flying Duck · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:15 pm Post subject:

Take it to a dealer. Laughing

_________________
93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
Buy parts HERE