K11 Owners Group

Thedodge · Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 5:46 pm Post subject: Oiled Clutch.

Does anyone out there have a link or links to posts relating to clutch replacement on a late K11LT. I would like to read a few before i carry out the work. I am also keen to find out about other things that can be checked/replaced whilst the bike is disassembled ( i read somewhere that there are cush drive rubbers in the alternator which may need to be replaced for example) Also, a list of necessary parts to carry out the work would be very helpful. Thanks in anticipation.
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robleyd · Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 8:20 pm Post subject:

http://k11og.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10850 might be some use. Also check in the rest of the tech stickies list http://k11og.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=12
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Tiff · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:47 pm Post subject:

I've been on a high the past week, booked my tunnel tickets for our European tour, fitted an autocom, new brakes all round, charging sockets all sorted, IPod dock, sat nav the lot. Today on the way to work I pulled out to overtake a car, and the rev counter accelerated faster than the speedo. this happened a few more times, so at work I checked and double checked the adjustment. Realised that my cup half full approach wasn't going to make it go away, and accepted that the small amount of oil coming out of the bottom of the box was the cause. There goes some of my hard saved holiday money. Sad

What do you guys change when going in that deep? Bear in mind it's my daily transport, so has to be done in a day.

Finn · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 1:48 pm Post subject:

When my earlier K1100RS did the same the whole clutch kit was changed as a kit. Only after dismounting everything will you see if the flywheel is OK. Also the reason ie. rear main sealing was changed while at it. It is a big job - at least from this layman's point of view.

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Tiff · Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 8:06 pm Post subject:

Well, I've popped my K clutch cherry, all done and dusted in a day, but what a pain in the a$$ Shocked

It was the original clutch that was taken out, at 108,000 miles, and almost at the rivets, so glad it went now rather than in the Alps! Just changed the plate and O ring, everything else was fine and within spec. Fitted a new gear indicator, and reinforced the exhaust whilst I was in there.

Finn · Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:56 am Post subject:

Did it look "well-oiled" inside as mine did? Sad

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Tiff · Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:40 am Post subject:

Shoganai · Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:21 pm Post subject:

Here's two of mine FWIW

http://k11og.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5777&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=120

http://k11og.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10544
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The long road is a rainbow and the pot of gold lies there.
So slip the chain and I'm off again,
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Tiff · Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:26 pm Post subject:

Shoganai · Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:14 pm Post subject:

I find it easier to get stuff out of the way than spend time fighting with it.

It may be different.
I know working on Smithy's bike was MUCH harder than my RS.
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1993 K1100RS aka The Shop Whore
1994 K1100RS aka Blue Streak

The long road is a rainbow and the pot of gold lies there.
So slip the chain and I'm off again,
You'll find me everywhere. I'm a Rover. - JT

Nana korobi ya oki

Rafal · Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 7:37 am Post subject:

Hello!

I have been looking at photos in this thread and have a question.
Is that normal wear of clutch plate and dirt deposed or it is oiled?

The thing is that the bike has over 60 000 miles. There were no sign of clutch slipping, and dyno run shows only small drop in power and torque relative to factory data.

Best regards,
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K1100RS is a real beast (in Marrakesh Red)
K75S is a real beauty - she has gone Sad

, but not to far Smile

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Shoganai · Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 9:09 am Post subject:

I could not save your picture to my computer so that I could magnify it for closer inspection so I don't know what you are referring to 'wear'.

What you have pictured is not the clutch plate, but the clutch housing.
The clutch plate is sandwiched between the pressure plate and the housing cover.

As for what looks like oil, no, that is not as it should be.
Oil would indicate a rear main seal failure/leak.

micky77

Replaced clutch, o-ring, seal etc about 500 miles ago and noticed new oil leaking out the weap hole tonite. Damn I hate to "do it again". Wonder what I did wrong? Any experienced thought appreciated.

Its gonna be a long hot summer. Sad

Rafal · Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:17 am Post subject:

Number 6

micky77

So, I tore into the bike again to figure out where oil organiation is - as I took off boot for clutch depression rod at the back end of the transmittion, a bunch more oil came out. The face of the transmisttion housing looked reasonable, so I think my issue is the seal on the clutch rod. Should there be tranny oil in the rod cup chamber? I am a little confused on the path the tranny oil is taking to get to the clutch area?

Any feedback appreciated.

Scott_Anderson · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:51 am Post subject:

Yes, you should have some oil inside that boot to lubricate the bearing plate that pushes the pushrod.
The O-ring on the pushrod is what is supposed to prevent the oil from migrating up(forward) to the clutch plate.
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micky77 · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:24 pm Post subject: O-ring bad on push rod

So, how does one remove the O-ring and install a new on. Is there a way for oil that lubs the push rod bearing drains back to tranny basin?

Inge K. · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:34 pm Post subject:

It`s always easier for the understanding,,,with a picture.......and it`s not a O-ring.

Inge K.

Scott_Anderson · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject:

Inge, thanks for the clarification.
I guess that also explaines why the seal is located on the trans input shaft diagram, and not part of the clutch control diagram.
part # for the seal: 23 21 1 451 159

Micky77, as far as the quantity of oil inside the boot, there should be some, but not a whole lot.
I'd think that if it's full and leaking on the ground you may have excessive wear of the piston(23 13 1 464 167) allowing too much oil to seep past the piston into the boot.
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1995 K1100LT 0302044
2017 FLHTK Ultra Limited
Garmin StreetPilot 2820
Garmin Zumo 550
Garmin Zumo XT
"One who does not ask questions is ashamed to learn" Danish proverb
1997 K1100LT 0302488(R.I.P.)
1997 R1100RT ZC62149(sold)