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granth Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 04 Aug 2010 Posts: 78 Location: Birmingham,England
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:41 pm Post subject: TOTAL loss of all electrical power. |
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my maiden post so here goes !
I have a '94 model K1100RS with 36,000 on the clock.Bike has run fine recently.Today I was out riding ,conditions dry and warm,and having covered about 60 miles,I slowed to take a turn and the bike cut out,TOTAL electrical power failure everything dead,instruments/clock blank.
I checked all fuses,all OK,after a few minutes it started normally and covered another 60 miles without incident ?
Battery/connections are good,I checked the connections to the Motronic unit,all seemed fine.
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl

Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10102 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Side stand switch. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
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E T Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 21 Jan 2010 Posts: 265 Location: Colbert Wa
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Flying Duck wrote: | | Side stand switch. |
IF it was the side stand switch, wouldn't all the power still be there, he said he lost all electrical power.. _________________ 1993 K1100LT
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl

Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10102 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, if the clock is going out then it's something other than the sidestand switch.
If EVERYTHING is going out and the battery connections are good then maybe it's a bad ground. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
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Scott_Anderson Site Admin
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 3122 Location: Central Iowa, USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Or a cell in the battery itself going bad. _________________ Ride safe.
1995 K1100LT 0302044
2017 FLHTK Ultra Limited
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jarnbak Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 85 Location: Helsinge,Denmark
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:11 am Post subject: |
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Mybe a bad ignition switch.Can be replaced witout removing the
steeringlock.
Regards Palle. |
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blue95lt Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 21 Mar 2007 Posts: 230 Location: Franklin In.
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:54 am Post subject: My vote IGN. SWITCH |
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I have to side with "jarnbak" I go with the ignition sw. Have it running,in the driveway, and turn handlebar rt. & lft. and it will prob. die but if moved quick enough it will come back on!!! jm2c. worth
keith _________________ 1995 k1100lt daily ride(22953)when I got it
1982 cb650sc blue nighthawk (38000)(crashed)
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl

Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10102 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:06 am Post subject: |
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If the clock is going blank too then it's probably not the ignition switch. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
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86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
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Technician Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Posts: 176 Location: Enfield, North London
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Had the same problem last year. Ignition switch was at fault, repaired wire and all ok . _________________ Fat Ba***d with a K1100LTse
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl

Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10102 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| Technician wrote: | | Had the same problem last year. Ignition switch was at fault, repaired wire and all ok . |
Was your clock going out too? I don't see how a bad ignition switch would cause that. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
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Technician Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Posts: 176 Location: Enfield, North London
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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To be completely honest i don't remember if it did, it's just that when i pulled everything apart i found a wire broken at the switch which was pulled away when the steering was turned then made contact again when i straightened the bars. _________________ Fat Ba***d with a K1100LTse
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Trucker Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Posts: 83 Location: Weston-super-Mare. England
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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I had the same problem earlier this year, and guess what, I cant remember if the clock went out either!. So this is more than likely no help at all.
Cheers.
Rich. _________________ 1993 K1100LTIC.
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granth Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 04 Aug 2010 Posts: 78 Location: Birmingham,England
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies so far guys.
I was wondering about an Earthing problem and will check all the main earthing points beyond the battery itself. The Battery is a fairly new BMW/EXIDE item.
Re the Ignition switch I had thought of looking at that too as there is no steering lock function and the key cannot be removed on the Parking/Auxillary function.It only works in the ignition position?
Overall the bike is in excellent condition mechanically and cosmetically and shows all the signs of having been maintained and serviced to a high standard. |
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl

Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10102 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, there is a steering lock. Crank the bars ALMOST all of the way to the right and turn the key all of the way counterclockwise. If it hasn't been used in a while then it may take some fiddling to get it to work. _________________ 93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
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granth Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 04 Aug 2010 Posts: 78 Location: Birmingham,England
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:20 am Post subject: |
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| Flying Duck wrote: | | Yes, there is a steering lock. Crank the bars ALMOST all of the way to the right and turn the key all of the way counterclockwise. If it hasn't been used in a while then it may take some fiddling to get it to work. |
Thanks again FD ! YOU WERE EXACTLY RIGHT.I turned the bars to the right,I found the "sweet spot", twiddled the key back and forth for a little and hey presto I now have a steering lock and parking lights.
The Owners manual says nothing about turning the bars to the right to engage the steering lock (page 12).My casual attempts to find suitable bar a position previously had met with no success till I read and followed your post.  _________________ 1993(94 MODEL) K1100RS IN ASTRAL BLUE
2006 URAL 750CC DALESMAN SIDECAR OUTFIT,
RED AND CREAM. |
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jarnbak Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 85 Location: Helsinge,Denmark
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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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I did not see this (instruments/clock blank).It is not the ignition switch,
the clock is hot wired.It has to be some major wiring like ground or
positive from battery. Mybe ground on the gearbox or the little positive
wire on the starter that is installed together with the main positive from
the battery.Check for corrosion on the gearbox grounding point.
Regards Palle. |
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poetryandmotorbikes Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 80
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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Starter motor? Take it out, clean it, look at the brushes. _________________ 1992 K75S
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granth Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 04 Aug 2010 Posts: 78 Location: Birmingham,England
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:54 am Post subject: |
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| jarnbak wrote: | I did not see this (instruments/clock blank).It is not the ignition switch,
the clock is hot wired.It has to be some major wiring like ground or
positive from battery. Mybe ground on the gearbox or the little positive
wire on the starter that is installed together with the main positive from
the battery.Check for corrosion on the gearbox grounding point.
Regards Palle. |
Thanks Jarnbak,I have already cleaned up the earthing points near the gearbox,I am hoping this was the cause (?) as clearly something interrupted the main power flow on either the negative or positive side.
I will wait to see if it happens again so far no repeat of that fault. _________________ 1993(94 MODEL) K1100RS IN ASTRAL BLUE
2006 URAL 750CC DALESMAN SIDECAR OUTFIT,
RED AND CREAM. |
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