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Flying Duck
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Go right ahead. Post whatever you want. To be unable to akcnowledge that in an accident a wheel powered by a 100hp engine with an open throttle poses no addtional safety hazard compared to a wheel powered by an engine at idle is just plain daft. It DOES pose an additional risk, not only to you but to others. If you con't beleive that then I stand 110% behind my previous comment.
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Shoganai
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Duck are you saying the throttle lock is dangerous addition?
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Off the grid
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:34 am Post subject: |
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Play nice fellas....elections over.
Personally I think that the ability for the engine to slow down is a good safety feature...much like the key on a Jetski that is attached to the life vest.
That said, I do use a throttle lock...but only on the freeway.
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DetroitDan
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Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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Location: Taylor, MI
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | whats the deal with that immediate deceleration anyway...
i let off the smallest bit and it goes nose down... thats the only thing really dislike of the motobrick...
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The main reason these drop so hard, off-throttle, is that the ECU shuts the injectors off, completely, during intitial decceleration. Since, intake manifold pressure drops drastically during initial decell, any liquid fuel present rapidly vaporizes. The injectors are cut; so they don't contribute to the hydocarbon spike that occurs from the vaporizing fuel.
This is one reason these bike surge so badly when the TPS is out of adjustment.
Also, they're geared pretty low; so engine braking is very noticable; particularily in lower gears.
my 2c
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owrstrich
Flying Brick Rider
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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thanks doctordetroit...
im gonna have to sell my motobricks and score a couple of poserbricks like rydors... that way i dont have to deal with the nose down...
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BobZ(IL)
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Riding with a little throttle tension is about as unsafe as riding without a helmet. Kind of up to the individual to decide.
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DetroitDan
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | im gonna have to sell my motobricks and score a couple of poserbricks like rydors... that way i dont have to deal with the nose down... |
No you don't! Just install a tiny rear sprocket - It'll drastically reduce that pesky engine braking!
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Shoganai
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:32 am Post subject: |
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| BobZ(IL) wrote: | | Riding with a little throttle tension is about as unsafe as riding without a helmet. Kind of up to the individual to decide. |
So are you also anti-throttle lock? 
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Shoganai
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:33 am Post subject: |
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| DetroitDan wrote: | This is one reason these bike surge so badly when the TPS is out of adjustment.
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TPS ?
Throttle position switch?
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Steverino
Mad Brick Rider
Joined: 03 Jan 2008
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Location: Culpeper, VA
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:38 am Post subject: |
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| Throttle position sensor. |
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BobZ(IL)
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | So are you also anti-throttle lock?
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Actually I always have a little tension on the throttle, enough to hold two or three seconds before releasing itself.
Almost always wear a helmet, but for quiet and comfort rather than fear of falling down.
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