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Sonu Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 15 Jan 2004 Posts: 400 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject: Maintenance free shaft drive |
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Friends,
Not that I can afford it but the "maintenance free" feature of the new K1300GT caught my eye. Does this mean no spline lubes? no final drive oil changes or ???
* Even more traction and pulling force, particularly at low and medium engine speeds, through the increase in engine capacity.
* Engine output 160 hp at 9,000 rpm, peak torque of 99 ft-lb at 8,000 rpm.
* Significant increase in torque from 3,500 rpm.
* Fulfillment of the strictest environmental standards through newly set-up Digital Motor Electronics.
* Optimization of the emission system through rear mufflers modified inside and a fully-controlled three-way catalytic converter.
* Desmodromic operation of the gas lever function for even better and more precise gas dosage.
* Optimized, maintenance-free shaft drive with a new, two-stage drive shaft.
* Even greater driving precision and optimized response combined with maximum riding stability ensured by the optimized Duolever front-wheel suspension complete with a newly designed lower longitudinal arm.
* Second-generation ESA II Electronically Adjustable Suspension and ASC Automatic Stability Control as an option.
* New, innovative generation of switches and controls with optimized ergonomics.
* Integral ABS (semi-integral) featured as standard for a high level of active safety. _________________ 1997 K1100LT "Ziggy" _GarminGPS_Corbin saddle_K Guards _Hyperlights_Fog lights_Eastern Beaver Relays_Cee Bailey_4"speakers_Michelin PR4's_MoS2_Spiegler lines_TPMS_VDO
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Off the grid Chaotic Good

Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 3414 Location: At the local taco truck waiting for Jo.
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds good, but how can anything that involves rotating metal and articulating joints be maintenance free? _________________ Bane of your existence since July 2006
2007 Triumph Tiger ABS. "Sabertooth"
2009 Husqvarna TE610. "The dirty Italian mistress"
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Jim Site Admin

Joined: 17 May 2003 Posts: 3841 Location: WHERETHEFUNNEVERENDS
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: Maintenance free shaft drive |
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| Sonu wrote: | Friends,
Not that I can afford it but the "maintenance free" feature of the new K1300GT caught my eye. Does this mean no spline lubes? no final drive oil changes or ??? |
I think BMW saw the error of their ways - I forget which bike it was - but after who knows how many drive failures, they added drain and fill holes. I think they then said the final drive lube only had to be changed at 600 miles and never again. _________________ Jim
1997 K1100LTSE 94,000 - still has gremlins!
1995 R100RT Classic 16,650 crashed - repaired!
1992 K75RTP 46,000
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Flying Duck PsyKotic Waterfowl

Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 10102 Location: Bumf***, WA
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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According to BMW, my brother's 525i has lifetime oil in the tranny and differential. Riiiight....  _________________ 93 LT (x2)
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Scott_Anderson Site Admin
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 3128 Location: Central Iowa, USA
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Off the grid wrote: | | Sounds good, but how can anything that involves rotating metal and articulating joints be maintenance free? |
I'm thinking like OTG, if it moves it aint maintenance free! _________________ Ride safe.
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Stoked Steve Flying Brick Rider

Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 1402 Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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I guess maintenance free means when it burns up, simply discard and replace, viola, no maintenance! _________________ Steve
Virginia Beach, VA
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Jim Site Admin

Joined: 17 May 2003 Posts: 3841 Location: WHERETHEFUNNEVERENDS
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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BMW does not let any of the dealers even try to fix a failed final drive. The ones that fail are sent back to the Mothership, and replacements are sent out. BMW still has not acknowledged there is/was ever a problem. _________________ Jim
1997 K1100LTSE 94,000 - still has gremlins!
1995 R100RT Classic 16,650 crashed - repaired!
1992 K75RTP 46,000
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Sonu Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 15 Jan 2004 Posts: 400 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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I'm just as skeptical as the rest of you.
I thought perhaps there was some new design that BMW had started using with this generation of bike. I'm curious as to what makes them so confident given that they keep seeing failures on recent models.
Sanjiv _________________ 1997 K1100LT "Ziggy" _GarminGPS_Corbin saddle_K Guards _Hyperlights_Fog lights_Eastern Beaver Relays_Cee Bailey_4"speakers_Michelin PR4's_MoS2_Spiegler lines_TPMS_VDO
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Off the grid Chaotic Good

Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 3414 Location: At the local taco truck waiting for Jo.
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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I still find it immensly comical that our old birds have bulletproof final drives yet the new, supposedly "better" models are detonating at an astonishing rate.  _________________ Bane of your existence since July 2006
2007 Triumph Tiger ABS. "Sabertooth"
2009 Husqvarna TE610. "The dirty Italian mistress"
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Sonu Flying Brick Rider
Joined: 15 Jan 2004 Posts: 400 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Off the grid wrote: | I still find it immensly comical that our old birds have bulletproof final drives yet the new, supposedly "better" models are detonating at an astonishing rate.  |
Exactly!
Even if I had $20K to cough up for a K1300GT I would not do it because I'm not confident it will match the reliability of my K1100LT.
The FJR1300 comes with ONE YEAR warranty. WTF? Motorcycle companies must think we are rich AND stupid.
I'd rather buy a used LT if I was shopping.......
Sanjiv _________________ 1997 K1100LT "Ziggy" _GarminGPS_Corbin saddle_K Guards _Hyperlights_Fog lights_Eastern Beaver Relays_Cee Bailey_4"speakers_Michelin PR4's_MoS2_Spiegler lines_TPMS_VDO
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