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carp · Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:59 pm Post subject: Sticky blinker

93 K1100lt Right blinker won't go off. I am vacationing in the black hills and would like to get home safely. Where do I start? I pulled the fuse cause when I turned the key off it still stuck on.
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Scott_Anderson · Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:15 am Post subject:

Well, here's some possibilities.

1 the blue/yellow wire between the right side switch cluster is skinned and grounded somewhere causing the signal to be on all the time.

2 the right side signal switch is internally stuck closed.

3 the flasher unit could be bad.

If it is still flashing with the key OFF then I would suggest that the flasher unit is bad.
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carp · Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:30 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the help! The right blinker is lit, and doesn't blink. Even when I turned the ignition off it stays lit. I pulled the #3 fuse and it went off.

Does this help with the diagnosis? I will look for the wire you mentioned.
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93 K1100LT
07 Bandit 1250S

old guy old bike · Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject:

Had the same deal on my '93LT. Only happened on the RH signal. I would lift the tank and give the relay a thump or 2 to clear the signal. Sometimes I had to loosen the mounting screws, which was a further indication of a bad relay. Did this until I found a relay on fleabay that I thought was priced right. Changed the relay and problem went away. No issues for 6 months so far.
Jeff
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Tim (Midland Section) · Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:50 pm Post subject:

RobWheatley · Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:27 pm Post subject:

Had the Hazards on my LT stick on on the way home from collecting it in Ireland, had to ride 450 mile with no indicators at all, again new flasher unit was needed.
Rob
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carp · Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:56 am Post subject:

Tapping the relay unsticks it. The left blinker works fine. It's the right that sticks. I keep forgetting not to push it. Everytime I forget and put the right blinker on it stays lit even with the key off. Every time I tap the relay it clears. Glad to know its the relay. When I pulled fuse #3 the blinkers and the clock are disabled. Does anyone know if fuse 3 shuts off anything beyond the blinkers and clock? My service manual is at home. Thanks for the help.
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93 K1100LT
07 Bandit 1250S

Scott_Anderson · Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:22 am Post subject:

carp · Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:32 pm Post subject:

It was only the right blinker sticking not the left. Last time I tapped on the relay I tried to "seat" it better. Since then it has been working fine. Thanks for all the help! Made it all the way home, with a functioning blinker. If it starts to fail again I will get a new relay.
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93 K1100LT
07 Bandit 1250S

max · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:28 am Post subject:

Had my replay apart today (just looking to see if I can modify to drive LEDs without extra bits by bypassing the "blown bulb" checker)... the contacts on the two relays are right there in front of you, fairly easy to get at.

IMHO a couple of passes (drag-throughs) of a small strip of 1500+ grit "glasspaper" would probably clean your contacts OK - might be worth a try before getting anew relay?

Cheers

Max

Tim (Midland Section) · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:33 am Post subject:

max · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:32 pm Post subject:

Tim (Midland Section) · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:38 pm Post subject:

supercat1 · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:15 pm Post subject:

slightly off topic, but do the k-bikes come with self-canceling blinkers? i saw a post somewhere that they did. mine does self cancel and i haven't got the faintest clue where to look for a signal minder if there is one. would that be under the tank?
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max · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:47 pm Post subject:

K bikes do self cancel - but it's strange rules, like "after so many seconds if above speed X, after so much distance if below speed X" from memory. The indicator "relay" does have a link wire with the instrument cluster (other than the indicator lights, of course)...

Of course, with the all-electronic blinkers, if you want to do a cancel yourself (from some other add-on) you've got it easier than with the normal motorbike turn signal switches - you just need to earth (from memory - do check!) the CANCEL wire.

Max

Scott_Anderson · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:20 pm Post subject:

Max was pretty close, from the ops manual:

After aprox 10 seconds at road speeds above 30 MPH, or

After aprox 690 ft in local or slow moving traffic.

Or you can cancel manually with the cancel switch on the right side handlebar control
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1997 K1100LT 0302488
2017 FLHTK Ultra Limited
Garmin StreetPilot 2820
Garmin Zumo 550
Garmin Zumo XT
"One who does not ask questions is ashamed to learn" Danish proverb
1995 K1100LT 0302044(R.I.P.)
1997 R1100RT ZC62149(sold)

supercat1 · Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:10 pm Post subject:

yeah, i had the manual cancel down. Wink

but i had noticed the signals canceling themselves and didn't remember reading anything about the feature while researching the bike. that is sweet, no need to install a signal minder then (for that purpose at least). Very Happy

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Flying Duck · Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject:

supercat1 · Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:38 pm Post subject: