K11 Owners Group

[Naked Hoof]

I've got myself an auxiliary fuse box (Centech AP-1) after hearing of the difficulties of getting the factory harness and wiring to deal with various upgraded or additional components.

Most of the installations I've seen put this under the seat, which for me seems ridiculous. I've chosen a location in the upper fairing on the left side, which will keep the wiring runs much shorter. The bracket which the fuel gauge mounts to seems perfectly located, providing a solid mounting point and plenty of room to route harnesses to different spots. It also seems it might be a great spot to mount a couple of permanent 12v outlets for a GPS and a Detector.

I'm searching through threads trying to find the ideal take off point for the positive lead, which appears to be from the starter motor, since it is switched, and is full of raw power.

Any additional thoughts?

FYI, first upgrades are PIAA 1192 Driving Lights and the Bi-Xenon upgrade for the headlight.
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79 Honda CB750 trainer
traded for Suzuki GS1150e (stolen)
81 Honda CB900F
02 Kawasaki ZR7 (cursed)
93 K1100RS Mystic Red

Dreams should never be reduced in potency by subjecting them to reality. - Lord Snarebottom

[Flying Duck]

I use these inexpensive fuse blocks. They mount nicely next to the OEM fuse block.




For large unswitched loads like driving lights, headlight relays, etc... I get power from the rear starter relay terminal.
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93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
Buy parts HERE

[Naked Hoof]

For me, the fairing position is a much better location. You have only one long run from the starter relay, instead of multiple runs using the other method. Yeah, so I have to remove the knee pad to get to it...a minor issue IMO. No "bling factor"...hmm, yeah this sucks...lol.
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79 Honda CB750 trainer
traded for Suzuki GS1150e (stolen)
81 Honda CB900F
02 Kawasaki ZR7 (cursed)
93 K1100RS Mystic Red

Dreams should never be reduced in potency by subjecting them to reality. - Lord Snarebottom

[Stoked Steve]

[Jim]

The Eastern Beaver fuseblock is way better than the Centech. I have one of each, and could never bring myself to install the Centech with all the contacts exposed on the bottom.

That said, I have a Centech fuseblock for sale - an AP1, I think.
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Jim
1997 K1100LTSE 94,000 - still has gremlins!
1995 R100RT Classic 16,650 crashed - repaired!
1992 K75RTP 46,000

"We shall not all die, but we shall all be changed."

[Flying Duck]

The power to the rear terminal of the starter relay is NOT SWITCHED nor is it fused. It comes straight from the battery.and is always hot.

If you don't believe me, take a ground wire and a wire from that terminal and stick them in your mouth. Make sure someone is there to get a video to upload.
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93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
Buy parts HERE

[malcolmt]

NH,
If you run a wire from the battery to your new fuse box then that wire will not be protected. If if gets damaged and shorts then POOF and SMOKE.

Run your new wire via an inline fuse holder mounted close to the connection, this will protect the new wire.
This is why the OE fuses are located close to the power source.

Malcolm(t)
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[Stoked Steve]

[drikko]

They are correct, that take off point isn't switched or fused. The reason all your things turn off is the control wires to your relays are switched off. But if you measure the volts at the input of the relays from the starting relay, you will find it's still live, which is exactly what you want, it maximises the power to your relay controlled lights etc.

Make sure there's a big fuse right near the starter relay as others have said above!
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K1100RS '97
Laverda RGS 1000 '84
Jim Young Trailer Sailer 5.7M WB

DISCLAIMER:- Anything I say may have been when I was drunk so please don't take it personally.

'Bigamy is having one wife/husband too many. Monogamy is the same.'
Oscar Wilde

[Naked Hoof]

I've decided to send the Centech back. The location that I chose is not guaranteed to stay dry.

The PIAAs and the HID upgrade both come with their own dedicated harnesses, so I've decided to utilize them.

Dropped a screw while removing the fairing...it's gone disappeared. Not on the garage floor, not inside the fairing...damn. Plus there is now a mess of dandelion spore all over the garage. Any parts that get sucked into that vortex may never be seen again.

It's the law of screw drops and spring loss: they go into a special place, and NOT where you thought they would.
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79 Honda CB750 trainer
traded for Suzuki GS1150e (stolen)
81 Honda CB900F
02 Kawasaki ZR7 (cursed)
93 K1100RS Mystic Red

Dreams should never be reduced in potency by subjecting them to reality. - Lord Snarebottom

[Stoked Steve]

I know the dropped screw disapearance all to well. I've found a magnetic retrieval tool to be most helpful, it's even found items I didn't know I had lost! I used it twice today.

I always laugh when I think that I must be carrying about 5 lbs of lost screws, washers and bolts somewhere in the innards of the bike!
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Steve
Virginia Beach, VA
93 K1100RS Mystic Red SOLD
12 Suzuki DL650A VStrom

[Naked Hoof]

[Mystic Red]

Compressed air will often blow the lost item out, then you can find it with the magnet.
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Scott Hespelt, '94 K11LT
K11 OG #466

[Naked Hoof]

[Flying Duck]

I think most garages have a hyperspatial interdimensional confluence that sucks dropped washers, bolts and nuts off to an alternate universe. I know mine does. There's a gigantic pile of them in that alternate universe. Next to the pile of single socks that disappear from the dryer.
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93 LT (x2)
94 RS
86-97 K75F(K75/100/1100 Frankenbrick)
86 K75C w/paralever, hi perf cams,TURBO!
91 & 92 K75Ss
91 K1
86 custom K100
14 WR250R
IBA #17739 (SS1K, BBG, 50CC)
Buy parts HERE

[drikko]

The trick to stopping the single sock issue is to buy many pairs of identical socks. This at least delays the issue till you are down to just 1 sock, then go buy 20 more pairs the same.
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K1100RS '97
Laverda RGS 1000 '84
Jim Young Trailer Sailer 5.7M WB

DISCLAIMER:- Anything I say may have been when I was drunk so please don't take it personally.

'Bigamy is having one wife/husband too many. Monogamy is the same.'
Oscar Wilde

[Stoked Steve]

I have found that the stainless steel nuts and bolts are not magnetic(?) I guess they're non-ferrous?

So my handy magnetic tool doesn't work on them.
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Steve
Virginia Beach, VA
93 K1100RS Mystic Red SOLD
12 Suzuki DL650A VStrom

[Flying Duck]

[drikko]

This got me curious, the stainless on my boat is all 316 grade including all the fasteners, slightly cheaper is 304 grade SS which most automotive SS fasteners are, The Desmoparts screw kits say they are A2-70 and A2-80 which I haven't heard of before although they are non magnetic so may be 3xx series as well, just a different nomenclature. BTW my Stainless fridge and oven are both magnetic so they must be 400 series, handy for posting pics up on the fridge! So as to why they aren't magnetic I found this,:-

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2009/11/19/2746568.htm
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K1100RS '97
Laverda RGS 1000 '84
Jim Young Trailer Sailer 5.7M WB

DISCLAIMER:- Anything I say may have been when I was drunk so please don't take it personally.

'Bigamy is having one wife/husband too many. Monogamy is the same.'
Oscar Wilde

[Flying Duck]