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E T
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:57 pm    Post subject: Strange tach Reply with quote

Not sure if anyone has had this problem or not, if so and you know the prob please postl

Yesterday i stopped on a ride, everything was working fine, took off and noticed the tach was not working, turned off the ignition and restarted it and still nothing, then shortly after that it slowly raised up over a few miles to be correct but would not drop as it should, then a few miles later it was working correctly.. made a few stops after that and never another problem

Any help is appreciated..
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello!

Well it looks like cleaning and drying the instruments internals and instrument connector is waiting for You. Look at http://www.ibmwr.org/ktech.shtml for some instructions.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were you parked where the cluster was in direct sunlight?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rafal wrote:
Hello!

Well it looks like cleaning and drying the instruments internals and instrument connector is waiting for You. Look at http://www.ibmwr.org/ktech.shtml for some instructions.

Best regards,

Thanks, I will check that out, Didn't even think of that, and i have it saved
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ted wrote:
Were you parked where the cluster was in direct sunlight?


It was during the middle of the afternoon, I don't think it was, but i wasn't really paying attention to if it was in the sun or not, I had stopped for a quick soda and it was in a parking spot.. Then i was on my way
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ask because the same thing happened to me recently, parked my K75RT in direct sunlight for an hour or so and the tach stuck, only returning to normal when I was off and riding (and it was out of constant, direct sunlight.) In intense sunlight they sometimes warp a bit causing the needle to hang, return to normal pretty quickly though. It has not happened since, though I am careful now not to park it with the sun directly on the cluster.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, thanks, I will be keeping a eye on it to see if it does it again, Im just hoping that is what caused it..
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at it from the sides around the edges of the face plate and you can see if it's warped or not.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, the wonders of MotoMeters. Ted's comment mirrors my own experiences. Here in Arizona, warping of the faceplates occur easily during the heat of summer. As a guideline for myself, I try to park the Beemer in a shaded area or facing the sun, thereby, shading the instrument panel. If that isn't possible, I place a white terry face cloth over the gauges and hold it in place with a rubber band.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freedom45 wrote:
Ah, the wonders of MotoMeters. Ted's comment mirrors my own experiences. Here in Arizona, warping of the faceplates occur easily during the heat of summer. As a guideline for myself, I try to park the Beemer in a shaded area or facing the sun, thereby, shading the instrument panel. If that isn't possible, I place a white terry face cloth over the gauges and hold it in place with a rubber band.


Yep.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After the same slow working/no working (while in the sun) tach problems finally annoyed me enough, two years ago I did the instant glue fix. Never had a problem again. And come to think of it even after Saltcreek and I did our gauge tech morning the crazy glue held fast. No shims, no rag over the faces needed.
Worked so well I haven't thought about it at all until this thread.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the benefit of newer forum members, SugarHill, will you elaborate on your glue method? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not responding for John.

Someone on the forum (can't remember who) took the cluster apart and lifted the face enough to get some RTV under there. Guess almost any kind of glue would work. If you go this route, be very aware that the tach and speedo needles/hands will bend if you look at them wrong.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freedom45 wrote:
For the benefit of newer forum members, SugarHill, will you elaborate on your glue method? Thanks.


OK, NOW you've got me over the proverbial barrel. Can't remember where I saw the "how to" on this one.

First of all, with an LT the gauge removal is a major PITA compared to an RS. But once you have the gauge guts in your hands (you have pulled it off the bike and have extracted it from the case) gently lift the face of the tach- DO NOT BEND THE NEEDLE!! and look at where the face would contact the backside. Place several small dots of instant (crazy) glue there and gently press and hold the face down onto the glued support.

BTW- this is what Jim explained but using instant glue instead of RTV adhesive.

Easy to do. With an LT, it will take you longer to get to the scene of the crime than it will to fix the tach.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not that bad John, just pull the windscreen assy off 1st. Then it's easy.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I did the initial LED upgrade on my LT, I removed the cluster without removing the windscreen assembly. In retrospect, I have no clue how I accomplished it. Question
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flying Duck wrote:
When I did the initial LED upgrade on my LT, I removed the cluster without removing the windscreen assembly. In retrospect, I have no clue how I accomplished it. Question


I don't either. Shocked I just looked at the procedure as another opportunity to clean and lube the windshield sliders - with DuPont teflon, of course.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The glue, then, is used to add strength to the faceplate and prevent warping, right? Might work. Anyone with a K bike will become familiar with MotoMeter removal and reinstallation Smile . In fact, I have a reserve cluster for both the K11 and K75S.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott_Anderson wrote:
It's not that bad John, just pull the windscreen assy off 1st. Then it's easy.


But the RS is just 2 nuts total (on the bike, not the guys holding wrenches). Under a minute. Just comparing the two. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SugarHillCTD wrote:
Scott_Anderson wrote:
It's not that bad John, just pull the windscreen assy off 1st. Then it's easy.


But the RS is just 2 nuts total (on the bike, not the guys holding wrenches). Under a minute. Just comparing the two. Very Happy


Laughing I understand John. It comes with experience and repetitiveness.
I've had mine(windscreen assy) on/off enough(over the years) I could probably do it in my sleep, and in about a minute.
That and I have not owned an RS either for comparison.
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