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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:34 pm    Post subject: Hall Sensor Replacement Reply with quote

Fault code 1133 is showing up. Indicates sensor problem on cylinders 2&3. Anyone here replaced a Hall Sensor on K1100? Didn't find much in search.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's pretty straightforward. Be careful taking the HES cover off as the gasket tears easily. Line up the notch on the HES with the hole in the block when putting the "new" one in.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where are you getting this fault code? K11's don't have ODB connectors that I know of...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flybd5 wrote:
Where are you getting this fault code? K11's don't have ODB connectors that I know of...


No, but they do have a primitive diagnostic connector(that you can buy an adapter to easily read).
If you don't have the plug in reader, there is a procedure that you can get the codes out with an LED or the TEMP lamp on the dash.

read here: http://www.k11og.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2110
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that the GS-911 3-pin adapter? Nah, don't want to have to hookup the bike to a PC to read the codes. I think I can design myself an adapter that grounds any of the three pins. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flybd5 wrote:
Is that the GS-911 3-pin adapter? Nah, don't want to have to hookup the bike to a PC to read the codes. I think I can design myself an adapter that grounds any of the three pins. Smile


You don't have to hook up to a pc. Just count flashes on the TEMP light.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Precisely. No point buying a device that has a useless USB port and only works with PC's. And windows at that. Ugh.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone here ever use parts from EME Euromotoelectrics? Pricing looks uncommonly low.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they had something I needed, I wouldn't be afraid to buy from them. I have seen them recommended by others.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5-star rating on Facebook, Google and a few other places. They must be doing something right.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've bought stuff from them - no problems.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:10 am    Post subject: Hall sensor Reply with quote

I have replaced a couple of these on K75's and it really is straight forward. Mark a line on both sides of the cut out with something like a nail or other sharp point before removing the old sensor. Fit the new sensor and connect the lead to the ignition amplifier. 3 cylinders or 4 it makes no difference, the procedure is the same.

As these items are made with some degree of precision, there is generally no need to check the timing but if you notice anything markedly different from when the original sensor was working properly you could try rotating the back plate by no more than half a degree at a time to see if this makes a difference. If there is no change reset it back to the marks you made before changing it over.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Installed a different HES finally with good results. Bike started right up, idled and reved up nicely. Didn't do a test ride yet, still buttoning up bodywork, will finish up tomorrow.

Again, thanks for suggestions and feedback.
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